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Old 10-07-2020, 07:27 PM
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Guidelines for wearing your chapter name's letters

I'm looking for guidelines on use of chapter letters.

Like, if I'm a member of the Delta Zeta chapter of XYZ Sorority, are the chapter reference guidelines solely with the Sorority? Or is it totally acceptable to go around wearing the DZ letters?

I mean, NO! That can't possibly be OK. But I am searching for some official guideline somewhere. Where common sense does not, unfortunately, prevail.

This is happening and I'm trying to point out an error in judgment respectfully. Or, if I'm wrong here, I need to see it in writing somewhere.

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Old 10-07-2020, 07:34 PM
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I've never heard of an NPC chapter wearing only the chapter letters. Yes, I've seen Gamma Gamma of Alpha Alpha but not just chapter letters.
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Old 10-07-2020, 07:54 PM
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I've never heard of an NPC chapter wearing only the chapter letters. Yes, I've seen Gamma Gamma of Alpha Alpha but not just chapter letters.
This. The chapter letters typically accompany the sorority (or fraternity) name/letters in some way, so I don't think it's generally an issue?
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Old 10-07-2020, 08:02 PM
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I would assume that may differ depending on the organization. Being in the NPHC, there’s obviously a lot of differences, so take my comment with a grain of salt if it doesn’t help you. But Greeks wearing just their chapter letters on a shirt happens pretty often in our council.
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Old 10-07-2020, 08:37 PM
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I would assume that may differ depending on the organization. Being in the NPHC, thereís obviously a lot of differences, so take my comment with a grain of salt if it doesnít help you. But Greeks wearing just their chapter letters on a shirt happens pretty often in our council.
and that's exactly why I qualified it with NPC....
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Old 10-07-2020, 09:49 PM
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I'm looking for guidelines on use of chapter letters.

Like, if I'm a member of the Delta Zeta chapter of XYZ Sorority, are the chapter reference guidelines solely with the Sorority? Or is it totally acceptable to go around wearing the DZ letters?

I mean, NO! That can't possibly be OK. But I am searching for some official guideline somewhere. Where common sense does not, unfortunately, prevail.

This is happening and I'm trying to point out an error in judgment respectfully. Or, if I'm wrong here, I need to see it in writing somewhere.

Help?
Shall I assume the chapter letters in question are not attached to your initiation badge? Unless women are refusing to wear their initiation badges (the rampant Equity Revolt) and are choosing to wear chapter guards alone.
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:59 AM
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and that's exactly why I qualified it with NPC....
*You* did, but the OP didn't. It doesn't look like PersistentDST was replying to you.
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Old 10-08-2020, 06:28 AM
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Bee, what council is your sorority a part of?
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:59 AM
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I'd assume NPC. She has Alpha Chi Omega in her signature line.
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:49 AM
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In Indiana, our Fiji chapters often refer to each other by Chapter Greek letter designations. For example, IU is just “the Zeta chapter”, Rose-Hulman is Rho Phi, Hanover is Tau, etc. And it’s not just single letter chapters...it’s just how it’s been. Our brothers from Purdue (Lambda Iota) would never say “the IU FIJIs.” It would just be “the Zeta chapter” and everybody would know who they meant.

In fact, the chapter I’ve advised for 20+ years has had pocket-Ts for rush shirts and on the pocket is: FIJI, below it (in Greeks) Rho Phi and below that Rush 2020 for example.
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:31 AM
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*You* did, but the OP didn't. It doesn't look like PersistentDST was replying to you.
Precisely this. I saw the OP was in an NPC sorority, but she didnít specify, so I just added my thoughts. Iím not clear why I received a negative response.
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:43 AM
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I would assume that may differ depending on the organization. Being in the NPHC, thereís obviously a lot of differences, so take my comment with a grain of salt if it doesnít help you. But Greeks wearing just their chapter letters on a shirt happens pretty often in our council.
Can you share an example, or guidelines that make this acceptable?
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:51 AM
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Shall I assume the chapter letters in question are not attached to your initiation badge? Unless women are refusing to wear their initiation badges (the rampant Equity Revolt) and are choosing to wear chapter guards alone.
It's not related to an Equity Revolt. They just like their chapter letters I guess. I've just never seen this without also featuring the sorority itself. That the chapter letters happen to be identical to another national organization is what's leaving me floored.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:03 AM
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It's not related to an Equity Revolt. They just like their chapter letters I guess. I've just never seen this without also featuring the sorority itself. That the chapter letters happen to be identical to another national organization is what's leaving me floored.
So... are they wearing, for example, stitched letter shirts with DZ plastered across the front and nothing else on it?

Do they know their chapter designation is the same as another NPC? Perhaps they're simply ignorant to this fact. You'd be surprised how many collegiate members of NPCs have no clue about national sororities that exist outside of their campus.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:13 AM
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Bee, what council is your sorority a part of?
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I'd assume NPC. She has Alpha Chi Omega in her signature line.
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It's not related to an Equity Revolt. They just like their chapter letters I guess. I've just never seen this without also featuring the sorority itself. That the chapter letters happen to be identical to another national organization is what's leaving me floored.
Think about this: the NPC didn't formally come into being until 1902. Even back then some chapter designations were already identical to those of some NPC groups...Alpha Phi, Delta Gamma and Delta Zeta chapters likely existed within several of our oldest NPC groups by 1902. The NPC has never sought to control chapter greek designations within its groups.

And NPC groups joining in 1951 would DEFINITELY have already had chapters with names exacting those of some of our earliest NPC member groups.
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