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View Poll Results: Does your chapter haze?
Yes. 322 24.92%
No. 855 66.18%
Not sure. 115 8.90%
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:19 PM
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I personally think its a sign of a weak person to have the attitude "well I went through it, they should have to as well."
I agree completely.
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:20 PM
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I'm almost afraid to comment on this one. LOL. Put it this way, Kappa Alpha Psi is a NON HAZING fraternity. Yeah o.k. uh huh.

When I was pledging to be a member of my frat, I do know that XYZ sorority was making their pledges sit on coke bottles for hours. Sometimes late at night after leaving the frat house I would see other XYZ sorority pledges leaving their houses crying. Professors knew who the pledges were, because sleeping in class was the norm during pledging. I saw quite a few pledges in XYZ frat and XYZ sorority who had a hard time sitting down in class too. Must have been a rough paddle night. LOL. They weren't hiding things very well.
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:22 PM
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That rule is ridiculous! How the heck can you be a secret society, then?! Lame.
GLOs are not secret societies.
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:56 PM
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Absolutely not. I was like, the opposite of hazed.. they showered me with gifts through my whole pledge period.
ditto.
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:06 AM
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GLOs are not secret societies.
What I meant by secret was that if seperating pledges from initiated members is considered hazing, there's no way to keep ritual secret. You might as well eliminate the whole new member period.

I consider GLOs secret societies. This is a definition from dictionary.com:

"secret society 
an organization, as a fraternal society, the members of which take secret initiation oaths, share secret passwords and rites, and are bound to assist each other."

Unless you're in Delta Upsilon or other GLOs that don't keep anything secret.. umm you're in a secret society.

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Old 10-31-2006, 03:48 AM
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GLOs are not secret societies.
Since when? I'm pretty sure that most GLO's would fall under any accepted definition of "secret society."
Unless you're using a definition which is drawn so narrowly that the whole existence of an organization must be secret for it to qualify.

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Old 10-31-2006, 09:49 AM
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Well... we painted a rock, made dinner for the sisters (my gramma's sauce recipe and macaroni), painted a banner that said "We love ABC" and learned a song. Is that hazing? Does it matter if a sister helped us?
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:15 AM
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Since when?
Since most of our foundings. We are "societies with secrets."

"Secret societies" don't advertise their organizations and their membership like we have always done. That would negate the purpose of being in a "secret society" in which everything, including membership, is on a "need to know basis."
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:23 AM
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What I meant by secret was that if seperating pledges from initiated members is considered hazing, there's no way to keep ritual secret. You might as well eliminate the whole new member period.

I consider GLOs secret societies. This is a definition from dictionary.com:

"secret society 
an organization, as a fraternal society, the members of which take secret initiation oaths, share secret passwords and rites, and are bound to assist each other."

Unless you're in Delta Upsilon or other GLOs that don't keep anything secret.. umm you're in a secret society.

I understood what you meant and I already know what the dictionaries say.

I'm sure there are some GLO members, especially some NPHCers, who understand where my distinction is coming from.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:26 AM
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I think some people feel the need to distinguish between GLOs and Secret Societies (like, I dunno Skull & Bones or something?) because pastors have preached against the latter.

Of course making a distinction is fine, but declaring that GLOs are NOT secret societies when they fit the definition seems silly. Same holds true for any other reason for denying it.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:31 AM
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I think some people feel the need to distinguish between GLOs and Secret Societies (like, I dunno Skull & Bones or something?) because pastors have preached against the latter.
Some people do it because they have experience with actual "secret societies" and the distinction helps to keep it all in perspective. Some people also do it to knock GLO members off of their high horses when they try to act so elite, undercover, and exclusive--as if there aren't thousands of college students walking around with XYZ sweatshirts on. Of course nonmembers aren't allowed to see a lot of stuff, such as ritual, but there are tons of "nonsecret" organizations that don't let nonmembers see the innerworkings.

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Of course making a distinction is fine
Cool....
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:15 PM
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Do we really have to have this conversation, lol...if you would really like to know Hazing is outlawed in most states if not all. But, Discrection in key!!! Iota Phi Theta Fraternity Incorporated is an non-hazing fraternity but we an intake process as most BGLO's and GLO's do.
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:17 PM
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Did you basically just say "you shouldn't haze but just keep it quiet" and "we don't haze but we do" ?
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Old 11-02-2006, 05:01 PM
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Did you basically just say "you shouldn't haze but just keep it quiet" and "we don't haze but we do" ?
Im sorry was that for me to reply to?
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Did you basically just say "you shouldn't haze but just keep it quiet" and "we don't haze but we do" ?
That's the impression I got as well.
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