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View Poll Results: Does your chapter haze?
Yes. 322 24.92%
No. 855 66.18%
Not sure. 115 8.90%
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Old 10-29-2006, 03:47 AM
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I could be wrong, but I doubt anyone (especially women) are going to write on this thread "yeah, we haze balls". lol
But the poll is anonymous, the results are interesting so far.

Especially as compared with the other poll I posted.
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Old 10-29-2006, 09:07 AM
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Absolutely not. I was like, the opposite of hazed.. they showered me with gifts through my whole pledge period.
Agreed! And I don't know one person who has been hazed, not just in my sorority but in the other GLO's on campus. (I'm sure it happens somewhere, I just don't know anyone thats been involved.)
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Old 10-29-2006, 09:43 AM
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Out of the 7 Fraternity houses on my old campus, I am aware that two hazed hard core while I was there.
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:56 PM
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Out of the 7 Fraternity houses on my old campus, I am aware that two hazed hard core while I was there.

Good point.

But the days of old have a new meaning for hazing today.

It has changed hasn't it?

So haze away and god forbid someone gets hurt or dies.
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:12 PM
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Yes, Tom......because we all know when you haze it has to be life threatening and dangerous.
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Old 10-29-2006, 02:06 PM
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Good point.

But the days of old have a new meaning for hazing today.

It has changed hasn't it?

So haze away and god forbid someone gets hurt or dies.
The thing is that our current risk management policies specify a lot of things that really can't carry the possibility of harm to another.

Lineups for example -- or activities which result in "mental discomfort" as most of our hazing policies specify have no possibility of causing anyone any actual harm.

I don't think I've ever heard of a chapter anywhere ever being put on probation for causing mental discomfort in a pledge though.

I hate that our policies contain such ambiguous terms. Mental discomfort can really encompass a lot. What if a brother is driving a car full of pledges and doesn't pull over the instant one of them tells him they need to go to the bathroom? Is that creating 'mental discomfort?' I think it could be.
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Old 10-29-2006, 02:10 PM
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Same with me. I was showered with gifts and attention all through my pledge period. My chapter still does the same. It was awesome.
Me too, I never felt or thought I was hazed, but I had to vote that yes, my chapter hazed, because we were told that asking the new members to leave the room for voting and other things was a form of hazing. We were told that our schools policy on hazing was "singling out anyone who is not initated for any reason and seperating them". Therefore asking them to leave for ritual voting and having initated only meetings was a form of hazing on our campus. Granted, it didn't really change anything because we, and other chapters, still did it.
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:55 PM
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The thing is that our current risk management policies specify a lot of things that really can't carry the possibility of harm to another.

Lineups for example -- or activities which result in "mental discomfort" as most of our hazing policies specify have no possibility of causing anyone any actual harm.

I don't think I've ever heard of a chapter anywhere ever being put on probation for causing mental discomfort in a pledge though.

I hate that our policies contain such ambiguous terms. Mental discomfort can really encompass a lot. What if a brother is driving a car full of pledges and doesn't pull over the instant one of them tells him they need to go to the bathroom? Is that creating 'mental discomfort?' I think it could be.
Kevin;
You are very correct.That is just what I meant when I posted above. Some things that we did back in the day.....today if you do it, you run into RM problems.

However, some activites of today go well beyond need or reason and those, in many cases can end up going too far and realy cause problems.

And then we have the (extreem) reactions, with sometimes vage and ambiguous terms which then starts this whole cycle over again.
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:09 PM
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Good point.

But the days of old have a new meaning for hazing today.

It has changed hasn't it?

So haze away and god forbid someone gets hurt or dies.
Shoud have added that one of those two is long gone as is my own. The second one was had sactions on it at least twice that I have heard of. Am not sure what they currently do during pledging.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:47 PM
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Me too, I never felt or thought I was hazed, but I had to vote that yes, my chapter hazed, because we were told that asking the new members to leave the room for voting and other things was a form of hazing. We were told that our schools policy on hazing was "singling out anyone who is not initated for any reason and seperating them". Therefore asking them to leave for ritual voting and having initated only meetings was a form of hazing on our campus. Granted, it didn't really change anything because we, and other chapters, still did it.
That rule is ridiculous! How the heck can you be a secret society, then?! Lame.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:51 PM
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Me too, I never felt or thought I was hazed, but I had to vote that yes, my chapter hazed, because we were told that asking the new members to leave the room for voting and other things was a form of hazing. We were told that our schools policy on hazing was "singling out anyone who is not initated for any reason and seperating them". Therefore asking them to leave for ritual voting and having initated only meetings was a form of hazing on our campus. Granted, it didn't really change anything because we, and other chapters, still did it.
Wow.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:53 PM
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That rule is ridiculous! How the heck can you be a secret society, then?! Lame.
I agree!
That is, among other things, taking matters way too far.
As a pledge, I never had a problem leaving prior to active member meetings.
Same thing happens in real world; senoir management has meetings by themselves all the time in every company I know of.
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:35 AM
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I'm just curious to see for those of you who have been hazed during your pledge period, does it bother you when you see new members in your org. that didn't get hazed at all?
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:38 AM
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it probobly would for chapters that eliminate hazing.
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:04 PM
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I'm just curious to see for those of you who have been hazed during your pledge period, does it bother you when you see new members in your org. that didn't get hazed at all?
I personally think its a sign of a weak person to have the attitude "well I went through it, they should have to as well."
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