GreekChat.com Forums  

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > Recruitment

Recruitment General discussion about recruitment.


Register Now for FREE!
Join GreekChat.com, The Fraternity & Sorority Greek Chat Network. To sign up for your FREE account INSTANTLY fill out the form below!

Username: Password: Confirm Password: E-Mail: Confirm E-Mail:
 
Image Verification
Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image opposite.

  I agree to forum rules 

» GC Stats
Members: 297,105
Threads: 114,114
Posts: 2,150,328
Welcome to our newest member, smwind
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 10-12-2006, 05:24 PM
AChiOhSnap AChiOhSnap is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 582
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB View Post
Really? I can't imagine my school's registrar office bothering to note my extracurriculars on my transcript...well, in fact I know they didn't, because I've seen my transcript. Is this really common?
Hmmmm... well that's just what my school does, and that's how another school found out (albeit after the fact) that one crazy PNM was indeed initiated into an NPC sorority at the school she transferred from. Someone just missed her record of membership in her file when they were registering her for formal recruitment. I don't actually think it's written on the transcript proper, but a part of the general transfer packet of materials sent from one school to another (along with health records, discipline records, etc.)

Maybe it's more common at smaller schools... I dunno.

I also know my formal recruitment application had a place for me to sign that I had never been initiated as a member of another NPC and a place to give my SSN#, so I figured there was some sort of background check. Maybe some places do check up on it and some others don't.
__________________
ACW

To let my lyre send forth the chords of love, unselfishness and sincerity
  #17  
Old 10-12-2006, 07:54 PM
violetpretty violetpretty is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A state with a North-South identity crisis
Posts: 3,213
Maybe she could be a recruitment counselor!

If she still wants to be involved in the Greek Community at her new school, maybe she could get in contact with the Panhellenic Association and be a Rho Chi/Rho Gamma/Gamma Chi/Pi Chi/Sigma Rho Chi/whatever this school calls it. She'd be able to meet women in other chapters and she'd be the ultimate in being unbiased for the PNMs because her sorority does not have a chapter there. If she joined an NPC sorority, then that would be the most involved she could be in the Greek Community. If she joined a local at her old school, then she is allowed to go through recruitment.
__________________
Sigma Kappa
~*~ Beta Zeta ~*~
MARYLAND
  #18  
Old 10-12-2006, 08:13 PM
BadSquirrelBeta BadSquirrelBeta is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Where old Sorority Girls go, pearls still included!!
Posts: 616
Send a message via AIM to BadSquirrelBeta
If she (or any young woman for that matter) was involved with a Beta Sigma Phi chapter on a college campus, which identifies and operates much like an active GL group on campus, she could seek membership in an NPC org.--pretty much the same as a local -OR- on the flip side, if she was in an NPC she could check out BSP, ESA or any of the other orgs discussed in the "joining a sorority" after college thread...perhaps there would be a fit for her there.

Alumnae Panhellenic may be an option for her too, if there is one, considering she left her former chapter in good standing.

Hope she can find a fit. And there of couse is nothing wrong with looking into membership in non-lettered campus clubs, organizations, etc., where friends can be made too!
__________________
Alpha Gamma Delta 25 Year Member
Attire: Afternoon dress and heels. No hat.
  #19  
Old 10-12-2006, 09:12 PM
KerriMarie KerriMarie is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 432
I can't imagine switching schools and wanting to get involved with any sorority other than Kappa - not after I've been through the initiation and ritual - maybe it doesn't mean as much to some people as it does to me - but I didn't say "I'm going to be a Kappa for the next short part of my life, then maybe I'll be a Zeta for a while... oooh, and DeeZee sounds cool..."
__________________
The owl, the key, the fleur de lis... rah rah for KKG!
  #20  
Old 10-13-2006, 07:18 AM
lyrica9 lyrica9 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 720
Quote:
Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap View Post
And let's hypothetically say that a woman was able to go through recruitment and join a sorority as a new member. The second she was "found out" (which would happen eventually) she would be unceremoniously booted and people would probably be pretty angry at her. It would probably be a humiliating experience for the PNM, but really, anyone who has been initiated into one NPC group should know better.
you'd be surprised how many girls don't know that once you're initiated into an NPC group you can't join any others. i've had a couple girls telling me that after they transferred to another school they were going to rush, not because they were trying to be sneaky, but because they simply didn't know.

i think a lot of girls/chapters just think that it pertains to that campus, and that if you go to another school without your sorority then it's ok to join another.
__________________
Alpha Delta Pi Alumna

"We are who we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut
  #21  
Old 10-13-2006, 07:53 AM
blackngoldengrl blackngoldengrl is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Posts: 271
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyrica9 View Post
you'd be surprised how many girls don't know that once you're initiated into an NPC group you can't join any others. i've had a couple girls telling me that after they transferred to another school they were going to rush, not because they were trying to be sneaky, but because they simply didn't know.

i think a lot of girls/chapters just think that it pertains to that campus, and that if you go to another school without your sorority then it's ok to join another.
Sounds like someone in membership education was dropping the ball!
__________________
Kappa Alpha Theta "The Fraternity was always second in my mind to coeducation. It was organized to help the girls win out in their fight to stay in college on a man's campus. We had to make a place for women in a man's world, and the Fraternity was one means to that bigger end." -Bettie Locke Hamilton
  #22  
Old 10-13-2006, 11:31 AM
dekeguy dekeguy is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Virginia and London
Posts: 1,025
May I ask a question regarding Sorority practice in such a situation? On the Fraternity side we have the same or at least similar rules about not joining a national if you have been initiated into another national. (I understand that there are some very rare exceptions in one or two fraternities, but those are irrelevant here). Anyway, when I was an undergrad we had a transfer student who had been to high school with a couple of our guys. He had been initiated into a national that had no chapter on our campus. Since he got along well with all of us we invited him to hang with us (wearing his pin, letters, etc). He was not a member but was considered more than a visitor, not a brother but sort of a cousin. He participated in everything except closed chapter business/ritual and that sort of thing. He contributed prorata for any social events and always pulled his own weight in any activity he could join in with us. We had an informal composit photo showing the brothers and one "cousin". We thought of him as "one of the extended family".
Would an arrangement something like that be possible in the case you all are discussing?
  #23  
Old 10-13-2006, 11:35 AM
Drolefille Drolefille is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,655
Potentially. It depends on the rules for social activities which tend to be stricter for NPC than for fraternities. Hanging out at sisterhood or philanthropy events or even just at the house wouldn't be uncommon, IF she's good friends with the sisters. Clearly ritual would be out. But that's not the sort of arrangement that you can ask for as the person from the outside.
__________________
From the SigmaTo the K!
Polyamorous, Pansexual and Proud of it!
It Gets Better
  #24  
Old 10-13-2006, 11:45 AM
33girl 33girl is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hotel Oceanview
Posts: 33,304
Quote:
Originally Posted by dekeguy View Post
May I ask a question regarding Sorority practice in such a situation? On the Fraternity side we have the same or at least similar rules about not joining a national if you have been initiated into another national. (I understand that there are some very rare exceptions in one or two fraternities, but those are irrelevant here). Anyway, when I was an undergrad we had a transfer student who had been to high school with a couple of our guys. He had been initiated into a national that had no chapter on our campus. Since he got along well with all of us we invited him to hang with us (wearing his pin, letters, etc). He was not a member but was considered more than a visitor, not a brother but sort of a cousin. He participated in everything except closed chapter business/ritual and that sort of thing. He contributed prorata for any social events and always pulled his own weight in any activity he could join in with us. We had an informal composit photo showing the brothers and one "cousin". We thought of him as "one of the extended family".
Would an arrangement something like that be possible in the case you all are discussing?
I think this used to be much more common for sororities, but now that the risk management rules are so much stricter, I don't think it happens as often. Not only that, if you have a campus with not the best Panhellenic regulations, another sorority could get wind of it and possibly use it as a rush infraction (even though the girl in question can't join). "Closed parties" (aka mixers) are much more closed than they used to be.
__________________
It is all 33girl's fault. ~DrPhil
  #25  
Old 10-13-2006, 11:58 AM
dekeguy dekeguy is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Virginia and London
Posts: 1,025
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drolefille View Post
Potentially. It depends on the rules for social activities which tend to be stricter for NPC than for fraternities. Hanging out at sisterhood or philanthropy events or even just at the house wouldn't be uncommon, IF she's good friends with the sisters. Clearly ritual would be out. But that's not the sort of arrangement that you can ask for as the person from the outside.

Thanks for the info. The case I spoke of was unique in my house during my undergrad time, but it worked out well. We would have bid this guy if he had been eligible and as it turned out he was a very good non-member member. We had some guys who used to hang with us fairly regularly, but it was a much looser and much more informal arrangement than with our "cousin".
I understand that years ago there used to be a fairly common practice of inviting people in that sort of situation to become SA's or Social Affiliates where they were sort of cousins to the chapter. I think that has mostly died out as an official program but I think it has merit since there seem to be rather a lot of people stuck in the same situation. Much more undergraduate mobility perhaps?
As to the person in question, since she is an initiated member of XYZ couldn't she check out the orgs on her new campus, see if and where she seemed to fit, and if she found a really comfortable fit ask if she might (as a member of XYZ) be accepted as a "cousin", with the appropriate limitations, of course?
That way she would retain her XYZ identity, share close friendship with her ABC cousins, and have the chance to pull her own weight by actively helping out in all appropriate areas?
  #26  
Old 10-13-2006, 12:01 PM
Drolefille Drolefille is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,655
I think it's still an awkward question. But it's not impossible. Also, risk management rules are still strict enough to cause issues. But I don't know that there aren't NPC sororities that allow honorary/associate members either.
__________________
From the SigmaTo the K!
Polyamorous, Pansexual and Proud of it!
It Gets Better
  #27  
Old 10-13-2006, 12:11 PM
dekeguy dekeguy is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Virginia and London
Posts: 1,025
Quote:
Originally Posted by 33girl View Post
I think this used to be much more common for sororities, but now that the risk management rules are so much stricter, I don't think it happens as often. Not only that, if you have a campus with not the best Panhellenic regulations, another sorority could get wind of it and possibly use it as a rush infraction (even though the girl in question can't join). "Closed parties" (aka mixers) are much more closed than they used to be.
Thanks for the update on current limitations. It has been a few years since undergrad so I am not really current in my info. Would it still be a problem if her "special status" was officially disclosed to the Greek Life office and any other appropriate group? In our case, we notified the Dean of Students, whose office supervised Greek orgs, to see if there was any difficulty. We were advised that he was covered by our umbrella insurance policy and they had no heartburn about it. He then volunteered to kick in for his share of the premium since he spent a lot of time with us. A happy result all around.
  #28  
Old 10-13-2006, 12:24 PM
33girl 33girl is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hotel Oceanview
Posts: 33,304
Quote:
Originally Posted by dekeguy View Post
Thanks for the update on current limitations. It has been a few years since undergrad so I am not really current in my info. Would it still be a problem if her "special status" was officially disclosed to the Greek Life office and any other appropriate group? In our case, we notified the Dean of Students, whose office supervised Greek orgs, to see if there was any difficulty. We were advised that he was covered by our umbrella insurance policy and they had no heartburn about it. He then volunteered to kick in for his share of the premium since he spent a lot of time with us. A happy result all around.
It's not so much the Greek life offices - it's the sororities' national offices and the way insurance policies are worded. They would probably be more likely to not budge than the school.

There's been mention on here of a "displaced Greeks" sort of group, but I forget where it was & I'm too lazy to search.
__________________
It is all 33girl's fault. ~DrPhil
  #29  
Old 10-13-2006, 12:51 PM
TSteven TSteven is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Left Coast
Posts: 3,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by 33girl View Post
There's been mention on here of a "displaced Greeks" sort of group, but I forget where it was & I'm too lazy to search.
"Greek Club" for transfer students
  #30  
Old 10-13-2006, 01:47 PM
AEPhiSierra AEPhiSierra is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 597
I will definitely have to check my manual but I feel like AEPhi might have (or at least use to have) some social member status which is rarely if ever used. If I remember correctly i think it was meant for unaffilated women that lived in houses because the chapter didn't have enough sisters to fill the house. I guess the idea was if you live in the house we might as well invite you some of our non-ritual events.
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
~~~~~~>Which FRAT or Soro Is The Best & Why Silence820 Greek Life 61 03-08-2008 03:16 AM
coed frat/soro ashley0202 Greek Life 21 10-03-2005 09:21 AM
Pledged (not initiated) into 1 NPC sorority in college, alumnae initiated elsewhere CutiePie2000 Greek Life 13 05-28-2003 09:25 PM
Different Frat/Soro Caramelattsu Greek Life 8 07-10-2000 09:07 PM
Best Frat/Soro Memory niknak Greek Life 3 06-14-2000 08:50 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.