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Old 06-14-2005, 05:51 PM
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Thumbs up Npc Green Book New New New

As Chapter Advisor, I got a brand new copy directly from my IHQ Although the enclosed bill was for $40.84, that's still cheaper than the NPC website price of $45.00

Guess I'm expected to take it out of the shrink wrap and read it, ugh? Glad to know there's sisters I can call to explain what I don't understand!!
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:22 PM
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YEAHHH - the long awaited new addition. I'll have to make sure I get the new one so that I can start pouring over it before recruitment!!
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:30 AM
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yep...gotta break off that shrink wrap. be sure to read the recruitment section...lots of great new information there!
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:24 AM
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I like the fact that it's now available in CD format.
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Old 06-15-2005, 01:59 PM
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Ok here is what helped me understand Quota Range. If anyone thinks this is inaccurate, let me know- I hate to pass on misinformation, but this is the way that it was explained to me.

Quota Range is only used BEFORE and DURING Bid Matching. You use the statistical history of your campus to determine the weighted average of signed bid cards over the last 3 years. Then you calculate Quota Range with a positive or negative 8%. 8% is just some math number they made up, but it works.

So if the weighted avg. is 40, you've got a range of 37-43.

Here is where I was confused. I thought that then ABC sorority could match to quota with 37, and XYZ could match to quota with 42. This is not the case.

The Panhellenic bid matchers (hopefully using the computer system, although I'm sure it's doable by hand) would do bid matching SEVEN TIMES, once with quota as 37, once with quota as 38, once with quota as 39, etc. all the way to 43. Then they look at all seven lists to see which quota matched the most girls and was the best for all the chapters. That BECOMES your quota. So if 40 is statistically best after running all of the quotas in the range, quota WILL BE 40 on Bid Day.

Does that help?

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Old 06-15-2005, 05:06 PM
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Ok here is what helped me understand Quota Range. If anyone thinks this is inaccurate, let me know- I hate to pass on misinformation, but this is the way that it was explained to me.

Quota Range is only used BEFORE and DURING Bid Matching. You use the statistical history of your campus to determine the weighted average of signed bid cards over the last 3 years. Then you calculate Quota Range with a positive or negative 8%. 8% is just some math number they made up, but it works.

So if the weighted avg. is 40, you've got a range of 37-43.

Here is where I was confused. I thought that then ABC sorority could match to quota with 37, and XYZ could match to quota with 42. This is not the case.

The Panhellenic bid matchers (hopefully using the computer system, although I'm sure it's doable by hand) would do bid matching SEVEN TIMES, once with quota as 37, once with quota as 38, once with quota as 39, etc. all the way to 43. Then they look at all seven lists to see which quota matched the most girls and was the best for all the chapters. That BECOMES your quota. So if 40 is statistically best after running all of the quotas in the range, quota WILL BE 40 on Bid Day.

Does that help?

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Old 06-15-2005, 08:17 PM
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I actually am a Recruitment Advisor (I actually love it though).

CarolinaCutie did a great job of explaining quota range. That is exactly how I understand it as well. Unfortunately my school will be one of those that will move to this system at the last possible minute- Fall of 2006.
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:56 PM
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I am dizzy just reading the EXPLANATION!

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Old 06-16-2005, 05:16 PM
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Here's the "Official" Explanation

My two cents: Quota Range is wonderful, even if it's confusing at first. This is what is sent to chapter advisors of campuses moving to QR by the NPC team:

Dear Recruitment Advisors,

The implementation of the NPC Release Figure Method
involves the use of a process called Quota-Range.
With this process, we provide an estimate of Quota,
but we do not commit to an exact number for Quota
until we conduct bid matching on the computer. Quota
may end up being higher or lower, depending upon a
number of factors, including the prospective new
member retention rate from preference until bid
matching. Whatever it's set at, though, it will be
the same for all chapters.

All numbers in the Quota Range are run through the bid
matching program to determine which level for Quota is
in the best interests of the system. We attempt to
balance the goal of achieving parity among the
chapters with the goal of maximizing the placement of
as many prospective new members as possible. We avoid
setting Quota too high in order to keep chapter new
member class sizes in balance. We avoid setting Quota
too low in order to avoid leaving too many women
completing the formal recruitment process in good
faith without bids.

At present, this year's Quota Estimate for [campus] is __, and Quota Range is [low end] to [high end]. These numbers assume that the withdrawals immediately before and after Preference are consistent with historical
withdrawal rates; if withdrawals are heavier than in
previous years, these numbers may shift down, in which
case Panhellenic would notify you before your lists
needed to be input.

If the numbers remain as stated above, you would need
to place [low end number] names on your first bid list (i.e., the lowest number in the Quota Range), arranged in
whatever manner you choose. You would then place the
remaining women attending your preferential events on
your second bid list, in preferential order.
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:09 PM
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Not end, but significantly reduce, especially when QR is used in conjunction with the new release figures method.
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:27 PM
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my advisor got the book and told me about it...but she hasn't caught me long enough to read recruitment stuff

hi advisor!!! i know who you are on greekchat.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:17 AM
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This should essentially end quota additions right?
You mean like snap bids?
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:33 AM
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A snap bid is completely different than a quota addition.
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:24 AM
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At Cal we have been using the quota range system for a while (our Greek advisors were sort of renegade and decided to do what was best for our system even if it was against NPC's recommendations). Anyway, I'm not sure if we also use the new release procedures (I haven't gotten my new green book yet, so I don't know what they are). We definitely have not, however, gotten rid of quota additions.

In fact, I think we now have more because letting one or two houses get quota +1 or +3 allows us to keep our overall quota number lower and thus more chapters achieve "quota". Plus, I believe Cal guarantees a bid to a PNM who sticks with the process and, since the other purpose of the quota range is to give PNM's their best options, this usually results in quota additions.

Maybe other schools are thinking of using the quota range differently or maybe the new release system affects quota additions?
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Old 06-17-2005, 10:52 AM
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I think the idea is to eliminate the need for quota additions by placing as many women as possible through quota range.

Instead of there being so many that do not get bids through regular bid match, one or two groups that don't make quota and then all the chapters that did make quota getting a couple "extra" through quota addition, they would place those women within the regular bid matching process.

My chapter changed to the new release figure method (RFM) last year and where we normally have anywhere from 10-20 no bids after quota addition, we only had 2. Those women could not be placed because they had intentional single preferenced (only put one chapter down on their card) and therefore were not eligible for quota addition.

Sad thing was, they would have gotten their first choice that way, but because the did not list two chapters, they got no bid and the chapter they listed first was not able to COB them b/c they were already at quota and chapter total.
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