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Old 04-02-2001, 10:07 PM
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I agree- so true - we are here for you!

You are a top organization with beautiful smart women - remember that!

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Old 04-03-2001, 08:54 AM
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Hey imsohappythatiama...

CONGRATULATIONS ON MAKING MODERATOR!!! I knew this day would happen. I'm glad to know that someone will be watching out for the best interests of KKG in this forum!

See you around the boards!!!

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Old 04-03-2001, 04:30 PM
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Old 04-05-2001, 06:48 PM
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YAY! Congrats on becoming moderator imsohappythatiama!


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Old 04-06-2001, 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by TxTechChiO:
Just wanted to let y'all know that I saw a particularly disturbing picture of some Kappas. My boyfriend's buddy was e-mailed a pic of Kappa Bid Day 2000 (no school noted) and every Kappa is topless. Some are wearing bras but most are totally nude up top and holding their breasts, all of them displaying big grins. My friend has put this pic on his computer as wallpaper, for all Greeks here to see. I wouldn't appreciate this kind of representation for my sorority and I hope you feel the same way. This picture does not represent y'all well, I am friends w/several Kappas and know you are great girls, but this pic is making y'all look bad.
hey it may seem bad but who does it hurt. No one! these girls are just having fun. It probably was not there intention to put it on the internet and have everyone look at it. but it happened. So don't put them down for having a little fun. Most of you know that you did something very similar one time in your life. Im a Kappa Sig at West Ga University and we also have it on my wallpaper. Sororities need to stop being so sheltered and let things happen. That's what college is for. FUN!!!!!!


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hey it may seem bad but who does it hurt. No one! these girls are just having fun. It probably was not there intention to put it on the internet and have everyone look at it. but it happened. So don't put them down for having a little fun. Most of you know that you did something very similar one time in your life. Im a Kappa Sig at West Ga University and we also have it on my wallpaper. Sororities need to stop being so sheltered and let things happen. That's what college is for. FUN!!!!!!
I can tell you who it hurts, Mike. It hurts Kappa Kappa Gamma and its almost 131 year reputation. Wherever you go, whatever you do, you will always be a representation of your GLO. If these girls had wanted to do such a thing, there was no need to include your sorority and chapter name. We all have our standards, and flashing your assets at the camera violates that. It is a bad representation that affects KKG. Who knows? A naive person could believe that all KKGs are that way, just by seeing that bid day picture.

Yes, we are all allowed to have fun, but fun doesn't have to include doing what they did in that bid day picture.

Mike, out of fraternal respect, and out of respect for KKG, I ask that you remove that picture from your wallpaper. I'm sure that there other other non-sorority women out there that you can exploit.

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Old 04-06-2001, 07:55 PM
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OK, I'm prepared to receive the 15 or so flames that will come from this, but from someone who did her fair share of stupid things in college, I would never have the guts to yell at/judge people on their actions. We sit here and judge these women on a silly act. And people post to them like they are 12. I think that you not only bring attention to something that you don't want to focus on, but you show a judgemental attitude that I think reflects poorly on you as well.

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Old 04-09-2001, 09:02 AM
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I don't think anyone is "judging" these girls--at least I'm not.

As I have written a number of times, they just didn't think about the consequences of their actions . . . and one of the immediate consequences of that picture is that the photographer who took it then turned around and sold it to a website (which shall remain unnamed), and it was posted all over the place.

It may be fun to take a picture like that--I totally understand (and agree)--but you have to think about CONSEQUENCES, like, who owns the negatives for this photo? Well, in this case the professional photographer owns the negative, and he used that photo for something is was never meant to be (Internet pseudo soft-porn--not that I think it's a pornographic picture, but that's what he sold it as). (FYI--even though he owns the negative and the copyright to that photo, he did not have the girls in the photo sign model releases to have their likenesses used for financial profit; that's why he had to remove it from publication on the Internet site.)

OTW is right--if that picture had been taken by another sister, or something, that would have been one thing...but having a professional take it, emblazon the words KKG across the bottom, and retain the right to the negative and the copyright is just going too far. Why? Because its consequences go farther than just those girls.... it affects all of us as Kappas, and as Greeks.

KappaSig1400: Well, actually, college is for learning, though fun is a big part of that. If sororities (and fraternities, too, thought it seems it's taking IFC a little longer to get with the program) don't begin to police themselves, then the universities will do it for us, and will no longer let the Greek system exist. This is just the state of the Greek system today in our super-PC world. We have two choices: (1) adapt, or (2) close down. So to answer your question, KappaSig1400, who does it hurt? Answer: Everyone in the greek system, because it perpetuates the stereotype that all we are good for is getting drunk, or stripping off our clothes, or beating pleges with paddles.

I know this is not a true stereotype. You know this is not a true stereotype. But the non-Greek world doesn't know this is not a true stereotype. They are just looking for ways to say to themselves, "You see, I knew the Greek system is no good." Sure, this stupid topless photo incident is just a small, small contribution to continuing that stereotype. But it is a contribution nevertheless.

I don't want anyone to get me wrong (and if you've read my numerous posts on this topic you should be very clear on where I'm coming from) I have much love for my Kappa sisters at the chapter where the photo was taken. I don't judge them. I don't think they're a "misfit chapter." I think they had some fun, and it went too far, and now they're having to deal with the consequences, unfortunately in a very public way. It's probably a good lesson--for them and for other members of the Greek family--that you have to use discretion sometimes...or bear the greater consequences of our actions.


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Old 04-09-2001, 09:30 PM
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Are all these people seeing what I am...

No nude shots were actually taken - I understand that the women had their hands over their chest.

Am I right? This was not a porn shot - the women were covered.

I just want this in the right frame of mind.

I am not going to judge at all- I KNOW that these women are very smart, classy and beautiful individuals - I just do not want everyone to think one thing when it was another!!! They covered themselves up.
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Old 04-09-2001, 10:20 PM
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ISU XO:

You're right, like I posted earlier, most of the girls in the photo are wearing bras and jeans. . . the other ones (who are in the front of the group in the photo) have on jeans but no bras or shirts, and are covering their boobs with their hands. Like the cover of that Janet Jackson CD cover that came out a few years back (the one with "If I Was Your Girl").


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Old 04-21-2001, 08:46 PM
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I don't think anyone is "judging" these girls--at least I'm not.

As I have written a number of times, they just didn't think about the consequences of their actions . . . and one of the immediate consequences of that picture is that the photographer who took it then turned around and sold it to a website (which shall remain unnamed), and it was posted all over the place.

It may be fun to take a picture like that--I totally understand (and agree)--but you have to think about CONSEQUENCES, like, who owns the negatives for this photo? Well, in this case the professional photographer owns the negative, and he used that photo for something is was never meant to be (Internet pseudo soft-porn--not that I think it's a pornographic picture, but that's what he sold it as). (FYI--even though he owns the negative and the copyright to that photo, he did not have the girls in the photo sign model releases to have their likenesses used for financial profit; that's why he had to remove it from publication on the Internet site.)

OTW is right--if that picture had been taken by another sister, or something, that would have been one thing...but having a professional take it, emblazon the words KKG across the bottom, and retain the right to the negative and the copyright is just going too far. Why? Because its consequences go farther than just those girls.... it affects all of us as Kappas, and as Greeks.

KappaSig1400: Well, actually, college is for learning, though fun is a big part of that. If sororities (and fraternities, too, thought it seems it's taking IFC a little longer to get with the program) don't begin to police themselves, then the universities will do it for us, and will no longer let the Greek system exist. This is just the state of the Greek system today in our super-PC world. We have two choices: (1) adapt, or (2) close down. So to answer your question, KappaSig1400, who does it hurt? Answer: Everyone in the greek system, because it perpetuates the stereotype that all we are good for is getting drunk, or stripping off our clothes, or beating pleges with paddles.

I know this is not a true stereotype. You know this is not a true stereotype. But the non-Greek world doesn't know this is not a true stereotype. They are just looking for ways to say to themselves, "You see, I knew the Greek system is no good." Sure, this stupid topless photo incident is just a small, small contribution to continuing that stereotype. But it is a contribution nevertheless.

I don't want anyone to get me wrong (and if you've read my numerous posts on this topic you should be very clear on where I'm coming from) I have much love for my Kappa sisters at the chapter where the photo was taken. I don't judge them. I don't think they're a "misfit chapter." I think they had some fun, and it went too far, and now they're having to deal with the consequences, unfortunately in a very public way. It's probably a good lesson--for them and for other members of the Greek family--that you have to use discretion sometimes...or bear the greater consequences of our actions.

Ok first off Noone is hitting anyone with a paddle
2nd no one i sgetting drunk third everyone in college takes their clothes off and gets drunk anyways. who are you to tell someone what they can or can't do.
This is why some girls who are right foir a sosority are not joing b/c they hear how everyone wants to be their mother. that is why kids leave home and go away to college to get away from their moms. Hence people like you. so get off their case and mine.
By the way kappa Sigma is the oldest fraternity in the world. we just celebrated 600 years of brotherhood. and we are still string even if someone gets naked and drunk. so don't lecture me or anyone eles about how many years of reputation you are trying to uphold b/c it is not going to work.
have a nice day..
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Old 04-21-2001, 10:54 PM
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I guess I'll start with the silly assumption that you ARE a kappa sig (HA!) You may not have a problem with drinking, or nudity, or any number of things, but how would you like it if someone took Kappa Sig's name and used it in a disrespectful light? Wouldn't you be pissed that you were associated with someone else's stupid behavior?

It doesn't matter what Kappas do or where they are, I am a Kappa and in a way I am associated with everything they do. It comes with being part of a NATIONAL organization.

It doesn't bother me if some girl across the country loves to show people her breasts. I don't care if these girls walk around naked in their dorm rooms. But when this happens, and the Kappa name is on it, and it is SPREAD ON THE INTERNET, I, imsohappythatiama, and any other KKG has the right to be concerned.

P.S. Kappa Sigma was founded in 1869. Do your research before you impersonate a fraternity brother
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Old 04-23-2001, 10:01 AM
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kappagirl00--you do my heart good! You hit the nail right on the head... I couldn't have said it any better myself!

Mike (the Kappa Sig)--first of all, let me say that you need to learn to (1) type, and (2) spell. It is difficult to prove your point to someone when you can't even use the language properly. It takes me a long while to even decipher what it is you have to say in your posts. Secondly, you do not seem to understand the jeopardy the greek system currently faces. Your precious "600 years of brotherhood" WILL be in peril if people like you confirm the world's misconceptions about the Greek system. You are a poor example of what a college man, let alone a greek man (and a Kappa Sigma at that!) should be. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. If the greek system dies out, we can all blame people like you for its demise.

Again, I must point out that it was always my understanding that people go to college in order to LEARN--not to get away from their moms, not to drink, not to get naked--they can do those things at a strip club, without paying the high tuition rates. (Although this rationale may be lost on you; since you certainly haven't learned anything about English while at college, perhaps you are in school for the booze, the sex, the freedom, etc.--it's hard to tell.)

It's fine if you want to be young and stupid--everyone gets to be young and stupid during part of their lives! Just don't be young and stupid in your letters--don't drag "600 years" of brotherhood down with you...and please don't even deign to associate yourself with Kappa Kappa Gamma via the women in the bid day photo in question. In this forum and in others, you've clearly proven that you're not even close to worthy.

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Old 04-29-2001, 10:38 PM
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As far as this whole kappa nudity thing...it was [campus removed by moderator] and being that i am in a different sorority i know that we all want to have a little fun but, when you decided to pledge your sorority you had to remember that you are looking out for the best and representing the best. Those pictures aren't the best and the sad thing is that they are all over the U.S..The worst part is that it is a bid day picture, they should be setting a good example for soon to be sisters. At my school the Kappas aren't great actually they are known as the worst sorority but they are slowly moving up and pictures like that does not help them..Yeah we all want to have fun but maybe you should think of your sorority and why you pledged them. At least thats what we do in our sorority and everyone knows that ours is the best!! sorry but we have respect for ourselves and we still mangage to have the college fun.

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