GreekChat.com Forums

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > General Chat Topics > Chit Chat

Chit Chat The Chit Chat forum is for discussions that do not fit into the forum topics listed below.


Register Now for FREE!
Join GreekChat.com, The Fraternity & Sorority Greek Chat Network. To sign up for your FREE account INSTANTLY fill out the form below!

Username: Password: Confirm Password: E-Mail: Confirm E-Mail:
 
Image Verification
Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image opposite.

  I agree to forum rules 

» GC Stats
Members: 200,134
Threads: 109,084
Posts: 2,115,572
Welcome to our newest member, jehntopay7843
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 06-25-2010, 06:27 PM
GMUBunny GMUBunny is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: a little left of the edge of insanity
Posts: 667
Send a message via AIM to GMUBunny Send a message via Yahoo to GMUBunny
We only got spanked a handful of times as kids because we weren't stupid and knew better than to do XYZ again. The threat of a spanking (or if out in public, "a trip to the little girls' room") was enough to deter us from misbehaving. I will only spank my children if they're doing something that could potentially hurt themselves or others, or if they sass me. If I so much as look at my son sideways, his lip will start to quiver and he'll stop. He's the sensitive one. My daughter, on the other hand, is a nightmare to discipline unless it's a spanking or light smack on the hand. Nothing else works. She thinks any other form of discipline is hilarious. Even the daycare workers don't know what to do about her, since spanking is not allowed there. It just depends on the child and the family, as mentioned previously in this thread.
__________________
ZTA
Theta Chi Chapter Alumna

Proud mommy of Tiernan Vincent 8-8-05 and Gwendolyn Iona 12-13-07!
Reply With Quote

Please contribute to help with the costs of running GreekChat.

Donations can be made via PayPal or Fundly.

Everyone who chips in towards this GreekChat fundraiser will have a GC premium membership added to their account (or extended, for those who already have GC premium memberships). [discuss]

  #32  
Old 06-25-2010, 06:36 PM
starang21 starang21 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: cobb
Posts: 5,377
i was spanked. and i will spank.

in public and in private.
__________________
my signature sucks
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 06-25-2010, 06:45 PM
KSUViolet06 KSUViolet06 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,431
I babysit my nephew and g-daughters fairly regularly.

I've been told that if they were in my home and I felt it was was necessary, that I could spank (their parents do it occasionally).

The 2 and 3 year old are too young for it in my opinion. They usually stop whatever inapproriate thing they're doing if I give them "the look" and tell them to stop.

I have only ever spanked the 6-year-old, and it was just once. She (after being told repeatedly to only ride her bike on the sidewalk) decided to ride her bike into the road and was almost hit by a car.

Even then, it was one swat and I didn't use an object or anything. Just enough to get the point across that you cannot EVER ride your bike into the road into traffic, EVER.



__________________
"Remember that apathy has no place in our Sorority." - Kelly Jo Karnes, Pi

Lakers Nation.

Last edited by KSUViolet06; 06-25-2010 at 11:13 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 06-25-2010, 11:09 PM
Alumiyum Alumiyum is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Tatooine
Posts: 2,175
I was spanked...it was always the last resort threat, but on many an occasion it was warranted. I know exactly how much of a hellion I was and if I have kids I imagine I'll get all that and more thrown back at me. It didn't make me a violent child and it didn't ALWAYS work, but most of the time it at least made me think twice. And I was an unusually stubborn child. My parents have even shown me video evidence...I was horrible. So I have nothing against spanking. (Though I don't want teachers or babysitters doing it for me...it's supposed to be a deterrent, not a beating and I don't want to risk someone fudging that line.) I won't, however, do that in public. It really does upset some people...when I misbehaved badly enough to warrant a spanking in a public place my parents took me out and then spanked me to avoid subjecting other customers to the yelling that would inevitably ensue. Which is how I think it should be done. No one wants to listen to a family disagreement and a screaming child during dinner, for instance.
__________________
IIII IIII IIII

"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five."
Groucho Marx

Last edited by Alumiyum; 06-25-2010 at 11:13 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 06-25-2010, 11:14 PM
KSUViolet06 KSUViolet06 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,431
If we misbehaved in public my mom always asked us "do we need to go outside for a minute?"

We pretty much knew what that meant. lol.
__________________
"Remember that apathy has no place in our Sorority." - Kelly Jo Karnes, Pi

Lakers Nation.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 06-25-2010, 11:29 PM
pshsx1 pshsx1 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 2,630
Quote:
Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 View Post
If we misbehaved in public my mom always asked us "do we need to go outside for a minute?"

We pretty much knew what that meant. lol.
Yes! Exact same thing!

I was (as was my sister) spanked and I am glad that I was. Sometimes it came with some type of warning and other times (generally when I knew I was doing/did something wrong) the hand or the belt met my butt. There are also quite a few times where my parents would grab my arm and pull me close to them, give me THE LOOK, and say "stop it" or something along those lines. Generally, I knew to immediately stop b/c a beating would come later otherwise.

Haha There was one time where I pulled a rack of my parents' closet out of the wall so I "went to bed" early. My dad got home from work a few hours later, asked me what happened, I lied, and he brought the hand on me while I was laying in bed... nowhere to run to afterward.. I just had to sit there in bed with my punishment. That stopped me from playing in their closet.

I will probably spank my children. My parents never did it in excess and every single parent in my family does it and it works for us.
__________________
Our Mission: Building Balanced Men
Our Principles: Virtue, Diligence, & Brotherly Love
Our Practice: Sound Mind, Sound Body

Σ Φ Ε

Last edited by pshsx1; 06-25-2010 at 11:31 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 06-25-2010, 11:47 PM
IrishLake IrishLake is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: What's round on the ends and high in the middle?
Posts: 3,000
I was spanked when I misbehaved. Bare handed or with the dreaded kochlöffel. I do spank when they are severely misbehaving. I give a swat (more of a scary action and then a firm tap on the butt), when it doesn't quite warrant a full blown spank. I won't use the wooden spoon though, 'cause that shit hurt for days. But for us, the spank is the last resort, ultimate form of punishment. Ditto on the "do we need to go outside?" They know better.
__________________
"I think my sorority sisters would be more concerned with the fact that I have a dick
" k_s
KAQ - 1870
With twin stars and kites above.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 06-26-2010, 08:28 PM
fantASTic fantASTic is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 727
I can't believe how many of you are pro-spanking. I am not.

I was spanked as a child (not beaten; spanked) and still hold severe resentment to my parents for it. I think it's totally unacceptable to teach children that an acceptable reaction to misbehaving or irritating someone is violence. Studies have shown that children who are spanked are significantly more likely to be violent and aggressive towards other children, even after controlling for dozens of factors (including natural aggressiveness). I personally do not want a violent and aggressive child; if you do, that is your prerogative, but do not be surprised to find out that he or she gets in trouble at school.

If your kid is acting up in the grocery store or a restaurant, you just leave. That's how it works. You. Leave. Does it inconvenience you? Yep. But you chose to have kids - that comes with the territory.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 06-26-2010, 08:57 PM
DrPhil DrPhil is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 13,946
Quote:
Originally Posted by fantASTic View Post
If your kid is acting up in the grocery store or a restaurant, you just leave. That's how it works. You. Leave.
No. Kids aren't in charge. People choose to have kids but they should never choose to have spoiled brats who think they run shit.

Such studies are wonderful for showing support for correlates of behavior but they can never say definitively that something causes an outcome, even when controlling for other factors. Researchers can conclude from their findings that spanking can increase the potential for a particular outcome but, as with most things, it does not guarantee a particular outcome. The limitations and implications for further research place study findings in their proper context.

People's support for research findings is correlated with how they feel about a topic before they even read the research, as I'm sure is the case for you based on how you feel about your spanking experience. More studies that support corporal punishment should make it beyond the peer reviews. I would love to read more of them and my opinion of them would be shaped by my support for moderate corporal punishment.

We are always teaching children and shaping the adults they will become, for better or for worse. With that said, of the people who were spanked as children, it definitely shapes our perceptions of authority and justifications for aggression and violence. Some kids who were spanked are quicker to aggression and think it's justified while others are more reclusive and soft spoken as to not be quick to anger. But, there are also people who say you shouldn't raise your voice at a child or do other forms of discipline like "time out" and taking things that they cherish (toys, school activities, etc) from them. What works? No one knows with 100% accuracy.

All discipline should be in moderation and based on thinking rather than emotion/anger. My siblings and I were spanked from time to time and our mother and father never tried to really hurt us. We could tell it was more rational and to prove a point and give us a level of discomfort. That's also a factor of the personalities of the parents. If I had tried to fight back or talk trash, the spankings would've been worse. The spanking always came after my parents nicely talked to us, then sternly gave us warnings and if none of those worked (because we were feeling grown or stupid) we always deserved the spanking. Always. I would definitely spank my kid if I gave the kid ample opportunity to fix whatever the problem is.

(I don't believe in corporal punishment in schools or other adults yelling at my kid. That's why you have to handle your business at the home so kids will only act up A LITTLE (kids will be kids and will always test limits) when they leave your home. Parents shouldn't have to leave a restaurant because of a badass kid just as teachers shouldn't have to stop a class because of a badass kid)
__________________
"Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it." ~ George Carlin
"But I have wisely been reminded that things are not always clear in print and you do have to hit the nail a bit more squarely on the head if you want to be sure to be understood."
~ Yoda aka DuBaiSis

Last edited by DrPhil; 06-26-2010 at 09:02 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 06-26-2010, 09:18 PM
Alumiyum Alumiyum is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Tatooine
Posts: 2,175
Quote:
Originally Posted by fantASTic View Post
I can't believe how many of you are pro-spanking. I am not.

I was spanked as a child (not beaten; spanked) and still hold severe resentment to my parents for it. I think it's totally unacceptable to teach children that an acceptable reaction to misbehaving or irritating someone is violence. Studies have shown that children who are spanked are significantly more likely to be violent and aggressive towards other children, even after controlling for dozens of factors (including natural aggressiveness). I personally do not want a violent and aggressive child; if you do, that is your prerogative, but do not be surprised to find out that he or she gets in trouble at school.

If your kid is acting up in the grocery store or a restaurant, you just leave. That's how it works. You. Leave. Does it inconvenience you? Yep. But you chose to have kids - that comes with the territory.


Personally I hold not one bit of resentment towards my parents for spanking me. It didn't scar me for life, and I think they did the right thing. I don't even remember being spanked at all, I just know I was because of the "funny" stories my family tells when they get together and let loose with the embarrassing childhood stories...so obviously it wasn't traumatic. As a child I did not respond to time out, a shake of the finger, or the loss of dessert with dinner when I was in a particularly bad mood. I wasn't the least bit violent, nor were my siblings. Just very loud and very prone to do the opposite of whatever my parents told me to do, like play with matches that I pulled out of my aunt's purse, for instance. And ironically in school I the most perfect child you could ask for, because I badly wanted to be the teacher's pet. Never acted out during school hours. I'm sure my teachers would've been floored if they'd ever encountered the after school me. (My siblings also just about never got in trouble at school, though by nature they aren't nearly as stubborn as I was so they didn't get in much trouble at home either.)

My parents always left a restaurant if one of us began yelling or misbehaving. No one else was inconvenienced besides our family. If we continued to do so we would be spanked at home.
__________________
IIII IIII IIII

"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five."
Groucho Marx
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 06-26-2010, 09:30 PM
southbymidwest southbymidwest is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: I would rather be at the beach
Posts: 1,106
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPhil View Post

Parents shouldn't have to leave a restaurant because of a badass kid just as teachers shouldn't have to stop a class because of a badass kid)
Pet Peeve Alert: Uhh, no. Any selfish parents who let their kid act up (and not just a little fussing) in a restaurant without dealing with it (mainly by ignoring or unsuccessful cajoling) need to be spanked themselves. J/K, but it is not my problem that your little darling is tired/hungry/bored/out of patience/whatever. And don't make it worse by spanking the kid in the restaurant thereby letting the rest of the restaurant hear the kid crying/roaring from the spanking.

OK, back to regularly scheduled programming.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 06-26-2010, 09:34 PM
DrPhil DrPhil is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 13,946
Quote:
Originally Posted by southbymidwest View Post
Pet Peeve Alert
The Post Provides the Context Alert.

Parents should eventually learn how to discipline their kids in public to avoid having to leave everytime the kid is acting up. I've seen kids taken to the restroom or outside during church service. The kids come back acting right. Something was successful whether it was a spanking, a grabbing, or a stern conversation.
__________________
"Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it." ~ George Carlin
"But I have wisely been reminded that things are not always clear in print and you do have to hit the nail a bit more squarely on the head if you want to be sure to be understood."
~ Yoda aka DuBaiSis
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 06-26-2010, 09:34 PM
KSUViolet06 KSUViolet06 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,431
There are sometimes situations where you can't just go home or leave. Example: you cannot get a sitter every single time you need to leave the house to run an errand, like go to the store and get milk.

I think that automatically leaving a situation when a kid misbehaves can lead them to think that THEY make the decisions about where mom and dad go.

Like, a 5-year-old is more than capable of realizing that "if i don't want to be in the grocery store right now, all I have to do is act up, and then we get to leave."
__________________
"Remember that apathy has no place in our Sorority." - Kelly Jo Karnes, Pi

Lakers Nation.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 06-26-2010, 09:37 PM
DrPhil DrPhil is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 13,946
Quote:
Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 View Post
There are sometimes situations where you can't just go home or leave. Example: you cannot get a sitter every single time you need to leave the house to run an errand, like go to the store and get milk.

I think that automatically leaving a situation when a kid misbehaves can lead them to think that THEY make the decisions about where mom and dad go.

Like, a 5-year-old is more than capable of realizing that "if i don't want to be in the grocery store right now, all I have to do is act up, and then we get to leave."
Yep and I know kids (including some teens) who act like fools when they don't want to be someplace. That's the best time to find a way to discipline them so they learn that they aren't in charge.
__________________
"Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it." ~ George Carlin
"But I have wisely been reminded that things are not always clear in print and you do have to hit the nail a bit more squarely on the head if you want to be sure to be understood."
~ Yoda aka DuBaiSis
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 06-26-2010, 09:44 PM
Drolefille Drolefille is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,695
Quote:
Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 View Post


I think that automatically leaving a situation when a kid misbehaves can lead them to think that THEY make the decisions about where mom and dad go.

Like, a 5-year-old is more than capable of realizing that "if i don't want to be in the grocery store right now, all I have to do is act up, and then we get to leave."
I agree, but I think it depends on the context of the kid misbehaving. In my experience, kid usually wants to be at the store or the restaurant so leaving is a reasonable response if possible, and is more of a punishment than caving to the tantrum. I know people who order their food and to go boxes at the same time, so if kid(s) pitches a fit, they pack up and go.

Just like spanking's not always the answer, the pick up and leave isn't either, but I think both can be in a parent's tool box.
__________________
From the SigmaTo the K!
Polyamorous, Pansexual and Proud of it!
It Gets Better
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.