Gay's Pledging

Inquirer602 · #1 08-20-2000, 11:44 AM

How do you, as a member of Alpha Phi Alpha, feel about gay's pledging your organization??

Bsykes · #2 08-20-2000, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by Inquirer602:
How do you, as a member of Alpha Phi Alpha, feel about gay's pledging your organization??

I think it is about time to cease all forms of discrimination and welcome all qualified
applicants into the fraternal bond (presuming
sexuality is not among the qualifying criteria).

BSykes (Omicron 1947)

2th-Pick · #3 08-20-2000, 07:38 PM

... Call me prejudice or whuteva... but the answer iz HELL NO!!!
I dont agree with homosexuality... but at the same tyme i dont hate on gayz because they're gay... i hate on gayz that dont know thier role. Their lifestyle doesn't embody whut i think about when i think uv ALPHA PHI ALPHA!!! az a matter uv fact... their lifestyle doesn't embody whut i think about when i think uv BLACK GREEK FRATERNITIES!!! Not to be TOO graphic... but i would NEVER... EVER... make a pledgee lock up with a known homosexual!!! Itz simple az that...
peace

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Professor · #4 08-21-2000, 10:47 AM

This topic has been briefly discussed in the past. Honestly, I am not sure how I feel. As a matter of fact some of my chapter brothers have also discussed this issue. From what I gather, most feel much like the army - I think the saying is don't ask - don't tell.

7BA94 · #5 08-22-2000, 06:32 PM

I agree with that deuce from BA hell no.

Professor · #6 08-30-2000, 08:26 AM

I rec'd this today and it remined me of this topic:

A little girl was playing in the garden when she spotted two spiders
mating. "Daddy, what are those two spiders doing?" she asked.
"They're mating," her father replied.
"What do you call the spider on top, Daddy?" she asked.
"That's a daddy longlegs." her father answered.
"So, the other one is a mommylonglegs?" the little girl asked.
"No," her father replied. "Both of them are daddy longlegs."
The little girl thought for a moment, then took her foot and stamped
them flat and said:
"Well, we're not having THAT sort of shit in our garden!"

Sexy Mocha · #7 08-30-2000, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by Professor:
I rec'd this today and it remined me of this topic:

A little girl was playing in the garden when she spotted two spiders
mating. "Daddy, what are those two spiders doing?" she asked.
"They're mating," her father replied.
"What do you call the spider on top, Daddy?" she asked.
"That's a daddy longlegs." her father answered.
"So, the other one is a mommylonglegs?" the little girl asked.
"No," her father replied. "Both of them are daddy longlegs."
The little girl thought for a moment, then took her foot and stamped
them flat and said:
"Well, we're not having THAT sort of shit in our garden!"

LOL Professor!!!

Discogoddess · #8 08-30-2000, 09:37 AM

Judge not lest ye be judged, brothers.

dc1 · #9 08-30-2000, 10:51 AM

Nicely put Discogoddess!

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I answered ever so meekly; "I seek Honor, Truth, Integrity, and Wisdom, yet those are four. How am I to choose?"
The answer came as a pounding whisper; "The four you seek are but one. I grant thee Compassion; for without it the four make none."
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Professor · #10 08-30-2000, 05:14 PM

Unfortunately, we live in a society that pass judgement - - - We are judged by our skin color, voice tone, hair texture, intelligence and even Sexual Preference. While I have problems practicing discriminatory acts, I still have a personal opinion and can't control how I feel. In this case, I can only control my actions. After much thought, I have decided that I don't care whom my frat brothers or anyone else sleeps with. I don't ask individuals if they are heterosexual and I am not about to start asking others if they are homosexual, gay or whatever the term is unless it is someone I intend to take to bed.

I know that some will argue that there are individuals wanting membership to the frat that may appear to be or have been accused of practicing homosexual behavior and therefore should not be in our organization. Well, it occurs to me that we have in-take or as some of my brothers state "whatever it is now," for the purpose of ascertaining if we will invite individuals for membership. This is clearly an issue of judgement. However, if we are going to say publicly that we do not want gays in the organization then we may as well say we have a standard practice of discrimination.

While I am not advocating that we post invites at local gay bars I am suggesting that perhaps we should seek confirmation on this issue from the national office. I can honestly say that I am not sure what the official answer to if we will invite an openly or known gay individual for membership but I do know that there are homosexuals already in the frat.

In conclusion, I prefer that my frat consist of heterosexual men. However, "If you don't tell then I want ask."

Post Script: For those that did not like the joke, please accept my apology - the intent was for humor only not judgement!

[This message has been edited by Professor (edited August 30, 2000).]

BrandNubian · #11 08-30-2000, 06:29 PM

This is a very interesting and heated topic. It is also a conversation I have had many times. But I will just ask this: What on the Creator's green earth does someone's sexual orientation have to do with their ability to contribute dedication, time, effort, sisterhood/brotherhood to their organization and service to the community?

B.N.

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"Queens shouldn't swing...if you know what I mean.."

AKA2D '91 · #12 08-30-2000, 08:08 PM

So, what do you say to a brother/sister who is gay and has been a member of the fraternity/sorority for many years?

Gays have ALWAYS existed. They are not going anywhere. They exist, I am sure in ALL fraternities and sororities.

The same frat/soror you dapped/hugged at the last meeting or gathering could be just as tutti frutti as the next gay person.

It's something to think about!

BrandNubian · #13 08-30-2000, 09:34 PM

Well said AKA2D'91!! Those were the next words out of my mouth! People (while entitled to their own opinions) need to wake up and realize that homosexuality is not new in general OR in the African-American community. Also it says something about our communities, culture and society when people become so riled up and hyper-focused about something that is just not the end-all-be-all of anyone's personality or life.

And that's how I chose to spend my two cents..

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"Queens shouldn't swing...if you know what I mean.."

Sexy Mocha · #14 08-30-2000, 10:37 PM

Boy do I have many opinions on the topic of homosexuality...BUT, as to not offend anyone's "lifestyle" or beliefs...I will, for once, keep quiet.

dc1 · #15 08-31-2000, 10:38 AM

Professor, thank you for clarifying your joke.
I will admit that I took offense to it; as I take offense to racial jokes, jokes about domestic violence, poverty, etc... No harm done.
http://www.lambda10.org/

The link above is something I just ran across. It leads to the Lamba10 Project (geared towards homosexuals in Greek Letter Organizations). I think that the entire site has alot of interesting information in regards to this topic; including statistics, links to nationals, etc.

Check it out

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Faced with the Divine, I was asked; "What one gift do you seek?"
I answered ever so meekly; "I seek Honor, Truth, Integrity, and Wisdom, yet those are four. How am I to choose?"
The answer came as a pounding whisper; "The four you seek are but one. I grant thee Compassion; for without it the four make none."
Author - me