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Old 08-19-2022, 08:56 AM
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https://www.al.com/life/2022/08/i-am...sh-tiktok.html

What a jackass. He’s made it harder for people who actually ARE trans and non-binary (sorry, but I don’t believe for a minute that he is) to go through rush by making a giant joke of everything for likes and clicks. I really wish Trumpy would have followed through and banned tiktok when he had the chance.
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Old 08-19-2022, 05:01 PM
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and he has really encouraged other trouble makers to follow his example in doing this. Making rush and sororities seem petty, useless and bigoted. More and more men will take advantage of our sororities' crushing desire not to look bad to anyone. He was just screwing with us and it will not be the last time.
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Old 08-19-2022, 06:34 PM
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What GPA does a PNM need to have a competitive recruitment at Alabama? Just wondering since Grant touted his 3.19 in the article.
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Old 08-19-2022, 06:42 PM
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I donít believe a word this person says anymore.

It wasnít for attention yet heís certainly not turning down any interviews? How
Many Tik Tok videos will he come up with, analyzing every aspect of this experience?

But itís not for attention, he swears!
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Old 08-19-2022, 07:51 PM
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What GPA does a PNM need to have a competitive recruitment at Alabama? Just wondering since Grant touted his 3.19 in the article.
The recommended GPA is a 3.2 BUT the incoming class of 2026 had a 3.8 average. Those are just the freshman numbers and I’m sure that the upperclassman also have to have higher GPAs to be able to compete.

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Old 08-19-2022, 11:39 PM
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Iím thinking NPC needs to start making rules regarding social media and that itís essential for members and rushees to stay off of it.
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Old 08-20-2022, 07:41 AM
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My understanding from some on the ground so to speak is that Grant never said he was Transgender in order to "sneak in" to recruitment. Honestly him being able to go through recruitment is more of a Panhellenic issue and maybe something needs to changed in the wording when dealing with circumstances like this.
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Old 08-20-2022, 01:54 PM
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He just went on TikTok and said that he is not transgender, he is not nonbinary, and he identifies as a male. Maybe itís just me but I donít understand why he didnít clarify this before sorority recruitment and I hate to sound unkind but I think the reason is attention. He knew he wouldnít get a bid and he continues on with all of this for attention and followers. It is a whole big mess and itís a shame that itís reflecting negatively on the Panhellenic system.
I did find this confusing. My understanding is that most organizations have changed their language to specifically include any person who identifies as female, to include trans women which I think is great. But he was very clear in his video that he does NOT consider himself a trans woman?

It also sounds like independent of his gender identity he had a lot of red flags as a PNM, including being a junior which generally is really a huge hurdle for any pnm.
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Old 08-20-2022, 02:31 PM
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It also sounds like independent of his gender identity he had a lot of red flags as a PNM, including being a junior which generally is really a huge hurdle for any pnm.
Most schools have upperclass quota now. Alabama does.
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Old 08-21-2022, 03:23 AM
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My understanding from some on the ground so to speak is that Grant never said he was Transgender in order to "sneak in" to recruitment. Honestly him being able to go through recruitment is more of a Panhellenic issue and maybe something needs to changed in the wording when dealing with circumstances like this.
This is another thing I'm having a hard time tracking down. When and where did HE say he was transgender? Perhaps he said this at some point and I just can't locate it?

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I did find this confusing. My understanding is that most organizations have changed their language to specifically include any person who identifies as female, to include trans women which I think is great. But he was very clear in his video that he does NOT consider himself a trans woman?
There's certainly some misleading messaging bouncing around, indicating that only two or three NPC sororities have policies accepting transgender women. This isn't true.

At the same time, I'm not aware of any sororities that have policies accepting non-binary members, so perhaps this is at least partially what caused the heavy cuts.

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It also sounds like independent of his gender identity he had a lot of red flags as a PNM, including being a junior which generally is really a huge hurdle for any pnm.
Where are you seeing that he's a junior? Based on his Instagram page, he graduated high school last year.
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Old 08-21-2022, 03:49 AM
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Iím thinking NPC needs to start making rules regarding social media and that itís essential for members and rushees to stay off of it.
I donít know - itís such a part of the lives of this generation, I think that might be impossible at this point?
And for the most part, I actually found a lot of the TikToks with the work week stuff and the PNMs OOTD really cute and in good taste. It also may get a lot of people excited about Greek life who wouldnít otherwise have any exposure to it?
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Old 08-21-2022, 04:48 AM
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This is another thing I'm having a hard time tracking down. When and where did HE say he was transgender? Perhaps he said this at some point and I just can't locate it?



There's certainly some misleading messaging bouncing around, indicating that only two or three NPC sororities have policies accepting transgender women. This isn't true.

At the same time, I'm not aware of any sororities that have policies accepting non-binary members, so perhaps this is at least partially what caused the heavy cuts.



Where are you seeing that he's a junior? Based on his Instagram page, he graduated high school last year.

He graduated with his AA from community college before he started at Alabama and so heís a junior by credits, not by age.
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Old 08-21-2022, 10:33 AM
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“The Sorority Drama Circling the University of Alabama”—-dated today, this is the headline for my morning NYT’s newsfeed.

Sadly, it won’t die.
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Old 08-21-2022, 11:23 AM
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I don't see that it reflects negatively on PH. He lied. He had invites. He got dropped. EOS.
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Ugh. What a fiasco!

I donít think it reflects negatively for PH though. They took him at his word when he filled out the application and gave him a chance. Thatís what youíre supposed to do: when someone tells you their gender identity, believe it and respect them. Take them as they are presenting themselves. Thatís what everyone did.

Thereís only one person who comes off looking really bad here.

Unfortunately, it did reflect negatively on PH. Theta and Gamma Phi were the only two chapters that didn't cut Grant right away. Those two chapters gave him a chance. When he eventually got dropped, I saw a bunch of people get on our Gamma Phi Beta Alabama chapter Insta and post things like "Justice for Grant!!!!" I don't understand why they were protesting the chapter that tried to give him a chance when the others just straight dropped him ASAP. But yeah, they wanted to shame Gamma Phi for not bidding him.


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This is another thing I'm having a hard time tracking down. When and where did HE say he was transgender? Perhaps he said this at some point and I just can't locate it?
I don't know if he ever said he was transgender; but, Grant said on TT that he is a male. In his video he says, quote, "I am not transgender", "My sex is male. I was born male.", "I'm just non-binary....I live my life as just Grant."

But then Grant's LinkedIn says "she/her" for pronouns. I'm not sure what "their" current preference is.

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Old 08-21-2022, 12:18 PM
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Iím pretty sure ďpublicity seeking jagoffĒ is the pronoun we should be using for this person at this point.
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