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Old 09-06-2017, 12:01 PM
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Ohio State Pi Beta Phi says in video that dating black women is "weird"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.3435629

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An Ohio State student is backpedaling on offensive comments she made about black women in a video many people are labeling as racist.

Earlier this week, Miami University freshman Aleigha Mason shared a 10-second clip of Katelyn Rust ranting about how "weird" it was that her ex-boyfriend was hooking up with a black woman.

Rust, a white woman, was apparently angry that her ex was caught dancing with Mason, a black woman.

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In the video Rust is seen looking into the camera and saying, "F--- yourself you're hooking up with a black girl, that's weird. That's weird as f---. F--- you."

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The Pi Beta Phi women's fraternity, which Rust is a member of, also released a statement saying the content in the video does not align with its values.

"Pi Phi is taking this very seriously, and we are currently working through our member accountability process," a tweet read.
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Old 09-06-2017, 01:22 PM
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Her Standards Board is probably going to be the least of her problems. The two young men leading the racist chant at OU SAE were expelled from school and their fraternity shut down.

The organization can't really be held liable for anything other than recruiting a racist.
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Old 09-06-2017, 01:26 PM
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Oh, I just realized that this is my cousin's chapter. I hope the membership takes a long look at their continuing member education and the conversations they have (or don't have) about race.
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Old 09-06-2017, 05:32 PM
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Why should the entire chapter suffer consequences from an inappropriate comment made by one member? Was she ranting while wearing her letters? Did she give a sorority chant at the end of her rant, or did someone ID her? Were all her sorority sisters in the background supporting her? Why should it be assumed that the sorority knows that she is racist?
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Old 09-06-2017, 05:46 PM
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I never meant to suggest her group should suffer any consequences. This is clearly not the same as the Oklahoma SAE situation. I would say the group has an opportunity to make a clear statement as to what its standards are here and people are going to make their own conclusions.
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:33 PM
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Was this on the girl's Twitter, or what? How did it get out?

I also think "weird" is a really, well, weird word to use in this situation.
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:44 PM
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I find it super interesting the tone of "Does it matter? She's not wearing letters while being racist" up in here but I'll reserve my commentary.

Whole sorority suffer? No. But I can't get down with "well does it matter?"

I recently confronted a similar issue with a group of collegians I was working with and I flat out told them that you may not have been wearing letters when you said that, but there is absolutely nothing values-based or "woman of character" about making racist comments.

Additional spoiler alert: "I am just a college student I did not know that was racist to say" means nothing to me.
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Old 09-06-2017, 08:02 PM
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Who asked if it mattered?

The post was entitled Pi Beta Phi member. If an OSU band member had ranted as purported this sorority member did, would the entire band be scapegoated? How about if she was a member of an honorary in her major?

My point was INDIVIDUALS should be held accountable for their transgressions. The fact that an individual is a sorority member, ASPCA member, friends of the library, etc. should be irrelevant unless the member's racist attitude is being actively supported by the org., which I doubt is the case, in this instance.
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^^I get that.
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Old 09-06-2017, 08:36 PM
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Agree with FSUZeta!
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Who asked if it mattered?
The author of the article thought Greek membership mattered. I imagine a lot of people are going to think her organizational membership matters. Is it justified? Nah. Does it matter to some people if it is justified? Nah.
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Was this on the girl's Twitter, or what? How did it get out?

I also think "weird" is a really, well, weird word to use in this situation.
It sounds like a big cat fight over a boy, captured on the internet for all to see.

It sounds like Rust is talking directly to her ex-boyfriend when she makes her rant about him dancing with an African-American student. I'm not sure if she posted this on Twitter, sent it to him, or what. The African-American girl somehow found out about it, and "shared it" -- on Twitter? IDK. It seems like the original ranter had already recorded and shared it.

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The author of the article thought Greek membership mattered. I imagine a lot of people are going to think her organizational membership matters. Is it justified? Nah. Does it matter to some people if it is justified? Nah.
This. We're all Greek members. Let's not pretend like that doesn't come up in s****y situations when it shouldn't. You do something stupid in college, and if you're part of Greek life, it's going to be mentioned.

We can't tell our members "don't do anything stupid in letters" and "you're always repping your org" and then be surprised when our Greek affiliation gets pulled into such matters.

And let's face it, Pi Phi came out and made a statement about it. Perhaps if they said nothing, it never would have hit the article. We don't know.

All of that being said, her chapter shouldn't face any punishment from her sorority or school because of her actions.
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Let's see whether the outrage machine spins this thing up. You never know what's going to catch on. Responding puts you in a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation. If you don't respond, the outrage peddlers will run with how out of touch and insensitive your organization for not being responsive. Best to just get the prompt press release out that you are investigating things and will handle your issues internally, that your organization does not condone its members acting in a racially offensive manner, but you have no further comment at this time.
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Let's see whether the outrage machine spins this thing up. You never know what's going to catch on. Responding puts you in a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation. If you don't respond, the outrage peddlers will run with how out of touch and insensitive your organization for not being responsive. Best to just get the prompt press release out that you are investigating things and will handle your issues internally, that your organization does not condone its members acting in a racially offensive manner, but you have no further comment at this time.
Exactly. And clearly this has become even more prevalent with the existence of social media. Not only do stories spread quickly, but it's very easy to figure out whether or not someone is involoved on campus and in which clubs and organizations they're a member.

Pi Phi obviously thought it would be better to get ahead of this, regardless of whether or not it was needed or made sense.
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