GreekChat.com Forums  

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > Recruitment

Recruitment General discussion about recruitment.


Register Now for FREE!
Join GreekChat.com, The Fraternity & Sorority Greek Chat Network. To sign up for your FREE account INSTANTLY fill out the form below!

Username: Password: Confirm Password: E-Mail: Confirm E-Mail:
 
Image Verification
Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image opposite.

  I agree to forum rules 

» GC Stats
Members: 300,263
Threads: 114,212
Posts: 2,151,526
Welcome to our newest member, DFHGHJFGJHFGJ
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-18-2015, 04:29 PM
Turtles1116 Turtles1116 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 3
Question Serious Question

I am currently an inactive member of a Fraternity. I went inactive right out of pledgeship due to academics and personal issues, and I was never initiated. It's been a year since I went inactive and after getting myself together, I really miss Greek Life. I planned on talking to my chapter and getting back into it during the Summer and helping with Summer Rush. However, I've talked to a lot of the guys (older, my pledge class, as well as met a couple of the new guys) and all I hear is negative things about the chapter. Basically, a lot of the older guys are going inactive, and our social/formal fund (for the next few years) is being taken to help pay for a new house.

I never got to experience formals or socials because I went inactive and my Fraternity didn't plan any socials or anything during my pledgeship semester. Someone told me that since I was never initiated, I could re-rush if I wanted to. I was wondering if this is true, and if so, what's the process? Also, if it is true, does anyone know anyone who had to go inactive before initiation and ended up re-rushing?

Thanks, y'all.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-18-2015, 04:38 PM
33girl 33girl is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hotel Oceanview
Posts: 33,360
Technically, you could rerush, but you might not get a bid if other fraternities look at you as "damaged goods" - whether you initated or not.

However, if you still would like to be a member of the original fraternity, and it kind of sounds like you would, I would talk to the advisor or an alum who has an advisory role about this formal fund paying for the house business. That doesn't sound right.
__________________
It is all 33girl's fault. ~DrPhil
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-18-2015, 08:55 PM
MysticCat MysticCat is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: A dark and very expensive forest
Posts: 12,665
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtles1116 View Post
I am currently an inactive member of a Fraternity.
I think the first thing you need to do is to talk with someone reliable about your status with the fraternity you pledged. Obviously different fraternities do things in different ways, but I've never heard of a pledge going "inactive." Initiated brothers, yes, at least in some fraternities. But my hunch is that if your pledgeship ended prior to initiation, and unless the chapter told you they were carrying you over as a pledge until the next semester to give you a chance to resolve the personal and academic issues, you have no membership status of any kind with the fraternity.

If that's the case, then I think the fraternity would have to offer you another bid for you to pick up where you left off with them. And if that's the case, it means you could rush other chapters, though as 33girl said, they might not open to considering you.

All the more reason to talk with someone who can give you accurate information about your status and about what's going on with the chapter.
__________________
AMONG MEN HARMONY
1898
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-19-2015, 04:12 AM
Turtles1116 Turtles1116 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 3
Mystic Cat, I went inactive right after our pledgeship ended, causing me to be a "neophyte."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-19-2015, 02:07 PM
MysticCat MysticCat is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: A dark and very expensive forest
Posts: 12,665
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtles1116 View Post
Mystic Cat, I went inactive right after our pledgeship ended, causing me to be a "neophyte."
Turtles, I'm afraid I'm still a little confused. I'm assuming from some of the details you gave—pledging, formals, social fund and a house—that you're talking about an NIC (IFC) fraternity. Like I said, there could certainly be some fraternities that do things in a way I'm not familiar with, but I've rarely, if ever, heard an NIC fraternity use the term "neophyte." In my experience, the fraternities that do use "neophyte" use it to mean a newly-initiated member. Again, in my experience, I've never heard of a pledge going "inactive." I'm wondering if this is something the chapter did, but that the national organization does not know about and would not recognize.

What exactly were you told about your status with the fraternity, and by whom were you told it?

And please understand, I'm only asking because I think it's important that you know exactly what your status is so that you can assess your options. The degree to which you might still be considered a "member" of the fraternity you pledged has a direct bearing on whether you might be able to rush other fraternities.
__________________
AMONG MEN HARMONY
1898
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-19-2015, 03:29 PM
33girl 33girl is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hotel Oceanview
Posts: 33,360
I've heard this, albeit many moons ago. Neophyte in NIC/NPC terms is what you are in the time between the completion of your pledgeship (usually with a "hell night") and when you are initiated. I was a neophyte for 2 days in ASA and I think a week in APO.

If he didn't make grades or it was clear he wasn't going to make grades that may have been why he didn't initiate.
__________________
It is all 33girl's fault. ~DrPhil

Last edited by 33girl; 02-19-2015 at 03:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-19-2015, 03:32 PM
DeltaBetaBaby DeltaBetaBaby is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: ILL-INI
Posts: 7,176
Send a message via AIM to DeltaBetaBaby
I've also heard of IFC groups doing it without sanctions from the national org.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-19-2015, 07:27 PM
MysticCat MysticCat is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: A dark and very expensive forest
Posts: 12,665
Interesting. I've never heard the term used that way, but that certainly doesn't mean it hasn't been.

And I've certainly heard of pledges being held over rather than let go because of grades. But (in my experience), when that happens, the pledge remains an active pledge and is expected to make grades and initiate the next semester. He says he's been inactive for a year.

And I did consider the possibility that the chapter is doing this without national knowledge or approval. That's one reason I suggested talking to someone reliable. Of course, it's possible that he could become active as a pledge again and all would go well. But it also seems possible that if this isn't consistent with national policies, then a problem may arise when paperwork is reviewed. I just don't want him to be taken by surprise if there is a problem, or think he's still bound to the fraternity if he's really not and would like to rush other fraternities.
__________________
AMONG MEN HARMONY
1898
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-19-2015, 08:09 PM
DeltaBetaBaby DeltaBetaBaby is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: ILL-INI
Posts: 7,176
Send a message via AIM to DeltaBetaBaby
Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticCat View Post
And I did consider the possibility that the chapter is doing this without national knowledge or approval. That's one reason I suggested talking to someone reliable. Of course, it's possible that he could become active as a pledge again and all would go well. But it also seems possible that if this isn't consistent with national policies, then a problem may arise when paperwork is reviewed. I just don't want him to be taken by surprise if there is a problem, or think he's still bound to the fraternity if he's really not and would like to rush other fraternities.
Oh, I absolutely think you gave him the right advice; I was just chiming in on the perceived IFC/NPHC discrepancy.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LeGaCy QuEsTiOn... I will love you forever if you can answer my question! HeRmIoNeGrAnGeR Recruitment 21 03-21-2015 08:22 PM
Sophomore Rushing Question/ House Live-In Requirement Question bell515 Sorority Recruitment 11 08-06-2014 10:31 PM
Ask a question - any question about Rushing at an SEC school! Gatorbaby Sorority Recruitment 4 07-14-2011 10:45 AM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.