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Old 05-26-2010, 12:27 PM
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NPC Hazing deaths?

I can personally remember news stories about hazing deaths in the NIC, NPHC fraternities and NPHC sororities, but I can't remember *any* NPC hazing deaths, even from my memory (which could be wrong) of the appendix in Nuwer's Broken Pledges, and he has a fairly good list.

Can anyone point me to anything for any NPC sorority? (note, as mentioned in another thread, the stereotype for the NPC is psychological hazing, so I'll take accusations of hazing causing suicide).
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:40 PM
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I can personally remember news stories about hazing deaths in the NIC, NPHC fraternities and NPHC sororities, but I can't remember *any* NPC hazing deaths, even from my memory (which could be wrong) of the appendix in Nuwer's Broken Pledges, and he has a fairly good list.

Can anyone point me to anything for any NPC sorority? (note, as mentioned in another thread, the stereotype for the NPC is psychological hazing, so I'll take accusations of hazing causing suicide).
Oh, there are a few cases out there, though, I don't think the groups would appreciate a rehashing of the cases on this site. The deaths, IIRC, were alcohol related. Luckily, the cases are few and far between.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:40 PM
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I don't know the details of this story but: Courtney's Legacy

She was a Chi O and died in 1990
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:43 PM
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I don't know the details of this story but: Courtney's Legacy

She was a Chi O and died in 1990
That doesn't sound like hazing but an accident after someone spiked her drink at a party.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:44 PM
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That doesn't sound like hazing but an accident after someone spiked her drink at a party.
Yeah, just scanning through quick search results.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:49 PM
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I don't know the details of this story but: Courtney's Legacy

She was a Chi O and died in 1990
Having read the page, I don't see anything that can be considered hazing by the Chi O and in fact Phi Delt Fraternity lost its charter over the incident, not Chi O. The only other things on the sorority hazing page are an interview from the NPC chair 10 years ago and a link to their forums (which are much messier than greekchat)

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Old 05-26-2010, 12:54 PM
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Oh, there are a few cases out there, though, I don't think the groups would appreciate a rehashing of the cases on this site. The deaths, IIRC, were alcohol related. Luckily, the cases are few and far between.
Agreed, few and far between. In fact I'd be surprised if the entire NPC had more than 2 per decade (on the outside). Which given the lifetime of the NPC, means that there would be NPC sororities with none.

You are right, simply due to changes in drinking patterns, I imagine that alcohol related deaths could be more significant than they were 40 years ago. Though my guess is that hazing deaths due to alcohol overdoses was not the number one reason for the changes in Alcohol policy for the NPC.

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From a thread you started in 2001:Here

An article posted indicates that there have only been 2 sorority deaths since the mid 1800s. This appears to be before the 2001 or 2002 AKA incident.

As for suicides, well, using the term for recruitment confounds my results so you're on your own.
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As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather not rehash any cases here. Perhaps one should do his own research instead of using sorority members to do it for him, hmmm?
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As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather not rehash any cases here. Perhaps one should do his own research instead of using sorority members to do it for him, hmmm?
Ouch.

I'm more concerned with the intent behind such a thread.

Is the intent to see quien es mas macho when it comes to hazing?
Is the intent a follow-up to that other hazing thread and to convince aspirants that it isn't so bad, afterall, come join us?
Or, is this just a reminder and refresher course on the past?
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:20 PM
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Ouch.

I'm more concerned with the intent behind such a thread.

Is the intent to see quien es mas macho when it comes to hazing?
Is the intent a follow-up to that other hazing thread and to convince aspirants that it isn't so bad, afterall, come join us?
Or, is this just a reminder and refresher course on the past?
I for one would prefer credit in whatever papers he's publishing with the information he's trolling on GC for. And by credit I mean monetary compensation.
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:25 PM
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I for one would prefer credit in whatever papers he's publishing with the information he's trolling on GC for. And by credit I mean monetary compensation.
Is he doing a wikipedia entry?
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:26 PM
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Is he doing a wikipedia entry?
That's just about the only "article" that GC would be an acceptable source for, IMO.
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I found it interesting that a very very similar thread was started by him 9 years ago.

And by interesting I mean suspicious.

Made me think a point was attempting to be made, or yes a paper was being written.
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:06 PM
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OP does a lot of digging around in other people's backyards.

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Is he doing a wikipedia entry?
He has changed other organizations' Wiki pages.

He's also working on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...and_Sororities

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I found it interesting that a very very similar thread was started by him 9 years ago.

And by interesting I mean suspicious.

Made me think a point was attempting to be made, or yes a paper was being written.
My suspicions have been raised for quite a while. My gut is usually never wrong.
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