Badge Trends? - Page 262

Leslie Anne · #**3916** 09-11-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lleduc

Any badge is significant, and don't ever think that any one group is more important than anothers' JUST because there is a name on the back. All badges have historical significance!

And I sleep fine at night thanks! I know not of what you speak about a coercion because I did not buy these pins off of "that site!!" I know saw the pictures, and did he research into how the two pins were connected, and then mistakenly separated!!

And so everyone knows, the badges being discussed were a Kappa Alpha Theta and Delta Tau Delta pin, that were framed together, and then separated by the seller on "that site". The KAO pin had the name on back, but the DTD pin did not. It turns out that the owner of the DTD was the husband of the owner of the KAO pin. They apparently met in college and then got married three years later! They must have had the pins put together in a nice frame (wish the ebay seller had the frame) and then passed down in the family.

Lesson to be learned, if you are a member of a group and you want your pins to be either buried with you or returned to the organization, make sure your will states such a thing!

Peace!
lledUC

You forgot to tell the end to the story...ya, know where you keep the historic Theta pin for yourself even though you're not a member!

Sorry pbear19. It had to be said.

Leslie Anne · #**3917** 09-11-2011, 10:52 PM

thetaj · #**3918** 09-11-2011, 10:54 PM

Oh my God, it's stunning.

thetalady · #**3919** 09-12-2011, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Oh. My. God. This just tears my heart... how badly would we love to have this historic pin back home in the Theta archives. So few badges of this age are around.

honeychile · #**3920** 09-12-2011, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

I'm speechless. And I agree, it's a part of history. Even if it remains privately owned, it should be where it could be best enjoyed.

IrishLake · #**3921** 09-12-2011, 08:45 AM

It's a gorgeous badge, and the oldest I've ever seen. Only 10 years after our founding!

naraht · #**3922** 09-12-2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

This thread needs a theme song.

"Bury me not without my sister pin" to the tune of "Bury me not on the lone prairie"?

naraht · #**3923** 09-12-2011, 09:57 AM

Serious question about Trends. For Alpha Phi Omega, Pins from the founding until about the mid 1960s (I think) had a screw thread on the and a back that screwed on with sort of a washer. This was designed to go through a Jacket Buttonhole so a hole already needs to exist in order to wear one of these.

After that time, the pins used a spike pin with a back went completely around it and clasped it. In order to remove it, you pulled the part at the far back away from the rest of the backing with an internal spring in the backing. Did other fraternities have this sort of change? (I wouldn't expect a sorority to go for a jacket buttonhole pin at any time)

AzTheta · #**3924** 09-12-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by naraht

Serious question about Trends. For Alpha Phi Omega, Pins from the founding until about the mid 1960s (I think) had a screw thread on the and a back that screwed on with sort of a washer. This was designed to go through a Jacket Buttonhole so a hole already needs to exist in order to wear one of these.

Very good! The older Theta pledge pins were this style, and I suspect this might have been for a reason other than a jacket button hole

Not too familiar with when we started using pledge pins, so I'll do a little research for you.

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Originally Posted by naraht

After that time, the pins used a spike pin with a back went completely around it and clasped it. In order to remove it, you pulled the part at the far back away from the rest of the backing with an internal spring in the backing. Did other fraternities have this sort of change? (I wouldn't expect a sorority to go for a jacket buttonhole pin at any time)

My own pledge pin was that style - a spike with a separate piece that you pushed against the spike after passing the spike through your clothing. It was tricky to get that spike through the knot in the pledge ribbon (we wore ribbons for a while, can't recall how long).

Now it's the barrel clasp.

Anyone else?

NutBrnHair · #**3925** 09-12-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thetalady

Oh. My. God. This just tears my heart... how badly would we love to have this historic pin back home in the Theta archives. So few badges of this age are around.

I agree -- that's where it belongs -- where it can be enjoyed by thousands of Thetas every year.

MysticCat · #**3926** 09-12-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

You forgot to tell the end to the story...ya, know where you keep the historic Theta pin for yourself even though you're not a member!

Sorry pbear19. It had to be said.

No, it didn't really.

I think it's completely understandable for Thetas to wish that this badge was in Theta's historical collection and to express that wish. But when it comes to people essentially telling someone else what he should or shoulldn't do with private property he owns -- and like it or not, that's what this is -- and suggesting that he is a bad person for not doing what they think he should do, I think the line into unnecessary judgmentalism has been crossed.

AzTheta · #**3927** 09-12-2011, 02:28 PM

MysticCat, with all due respect, there is a lot more to the story of how lleduc/chrysoloras came into possession of this badge that hasn't been aired. People who are involved know the circumstances. I found all his talk about karma to be especially ironic.

Had he not come to Badge Trends and outed himself, this convo would not be happening.

Speaking for myself, I'm finished with the entire ugly mess.

Bottom line: the badge is NOT Kappa Alpha Theta. It's a BADGE. It is a material object. It has significance to Kappa Alpha Theta. But it is NOT Theta.

MysticCat · #**3928** 09-12-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTheta

MysticCat, with all due respect, there is a lot more to the story of how lleduc/chrysoloras came into possession of this badge that hasn't been aired.

Fair enough. Just chalk it up to how the conversation appeared to a reader of this thread not in on all the back story.

DrPhil · #**3929** 09-12-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTheta

MysticCat, with all due respect, there is a lot more to the story of how lleduc/chrysoloras came into possession of this badge that hasn't been aired. People who are involved know the circumstances. I found all his talk about karma to be especially ironic.

Had he not come to Badge Trends and outed himself, this convo would not be happening.

Stop teasing us, folks. Either share the story or keep the teasers off of Greekchat.

However, I disagree with pbear19. This thread stopped only being about photos of awesome badges pages ago when people started talking about collecting, selling, and rescuing. That takes the discussion to another place which leads to the inevitable discussions of different organizations' policies and protocol and other stuff.

AOII Angel · #**3930** 09-12-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Stop teasing us, folks. Either share the story or keep the teasers off of Greekchat.

However, I disagree with pbear19. This thread stopped only being about photos of awesome badges pages ago when people started talking about collecting, selling, and rescuing. That takes the discussion to another place which leads to the inevitable discussions of different organizations' policies and protocol and other stuff.

I agree. It did...a long time ago.