Snap bids

[UGAalum94]

I tend to think that snap bids usually take the form of a chapter realizing that they cut themselves out, so they go back and snap someone who was near the top of the release list from the last round.

I wouldn't think the group would try to snap bid a girl who cut them or girl who dropped out when they were still on her party list because it would just seem pointless.

Can anyone tell me how it usually really works?

[KSUViolet06]

Correct me if I am wrong or if I am missing something:

Snap bidding occurs after bid matching is done. When a girl does not match with any sorority at which she attends pref parties, she is eligible to be bid by any chapter that has not matched quota after bid matching ( even if she dropped them earlier).

Example:

Let's say there are 4 sororities (ABC, XYZ, MNO, DEF) and a max of 2 parties you can attend for pref .

Becky attends pref at ABC and XYZ. She ranks them, but does not match with EITHER (they both matched quota before they got to her).

So Panhellenic matches all PNMs and poor Backy is matched with no one. She is eligible for snap bidding.

Well, after everyone has been matched, the OTHER 2 sororities (MNO & DEF) are still under quota. They are eligible to snap bid girls.

Panhellenic says "Becky didn't match with either of the groups on her final card. Which one of you wants Becky?"

One of 3 things could happen:

Situation #1

DEF says "No thank you."
MNO says "sure"
Becky gets a bid from MNO. This could be a group that she cut early on or EVEN in some cases a group that CUT HER. So she may or may not accept because neither of those 2 were on her final list.


Situation #2
Both MNO & DEF could say "no" and Becky goes bidless.

Situation #3
I'm not sure what happens if both sororities would like to bid her. I don't think she gets to choose between the 2. I think she would go to the group that is furthest from quota. (someone chime in if they actually *know* how it works.

To note, at some schools if you Intentionally Single Preference (or "suicide"), you are automatically ineligible for snap bidding. Which means, if you do not match with the one sorority that you list, you go bidless.

[UGAalum94]

Thank you for answering. I think that's it, but I think PNMs can also be extended snap bids if they drop out of rush.

I was curious about how things tend to really happen with snap bids, rather than what was possible.

I'm wondering if snap bids are essentially used more to get girls back who the group cut or to give girls who cut the group a second chance, which doesn't seem like it would often work.

[KSUViolet06]

Glad to help. Usually (speaking for my campus only here), a girl will decline a snap bid if she gets one. because the bid they're presented with at the end is from someone that they were not interested in and that wasn't even on their final ranking. For example (and I'm using RANDOM sorority names here, no getting offended) you ranked AZD and Chi O in the end, and you open your bid card and there's a bid from Theta, whom you released (for whatever reason) after round one. It's a little shocking.

But in the instances that I've seen where a girl was given a snap bid, accepted it, and given them a chance, they've turned out to be really good members.

Personally, I've always felt like snap bidding was used more to help keep girls from going bidless in the end in the event that they don't end up receiving bids from either of the groups they preffed.

Conversely, it's used as a way to help groups get to quota if they haven't reached it after bids have been matched.

[UGAalum94]

Well, one of those points is sort of why I'm asking.

If the snap bid comes from a group that cut you, there's a strong chance the girls would eagerly take a snap bid.

In the cases in which the girl cut them, I wouldn't think it would be a successful way for the group to get to quota very often, and yet, snap bid are given and accepted.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

If the snap bid comes from a group that cut you, there's a strong chance the girls would eagerly take a snap bid.

Come to think of it, I've never seen a snap bid come from a group that released someone. It's usually from a group whom the GIRL cut early on (which is why at my school they don't get accepted often). I know they can, but it's not something I've seen. Have you seen it in your UGA experience?

[lyrelyre]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Correct me if I am wrong or if I am missing something:

Example:

Let's say there are 4 sororities (ABC, XYZ, MNO, DEF) and a max of 2 parties you can attend for pref .

Becky attends pref at ABC and XYZ. She ranks them, but does not match with EITHER (they both matched quota before they got to her).

So Panhellenic matches all PNMs and poor Backy is matched with no one. She is eligible for snap bidding.

Well, after everyone has been matched, the OTHER 2 sororities (MNO & DEF) are still under quota. They are eligible to snap bid girls.

Panhellenic says "Becky didn't match with either of the groups on her final card. Which one of you wants Becky?"

One of 3 things could happen:

Situation #1

DEF says "No thank you."
MNO says "sure"
Becky gets a bid from MNO. This could be a group that she cut early on or EVEN in some cases a group that CUT HER. So she may or may not accept because neither of those 2 were on her final list.


Situation #2
Both MNO & DEF could say "no" and Becky goes bidless.

Situation #3
I'm not sure what happens if both sororities would like to bid her. I don't think she gets to choose between the 2. I think she would go to the group that is furthest from quota. (someone chime in if they actually *know* how it works.

To note, at some schools if you Intentionally Single Preference (or "suicide"), you are automatically ineligible for snap bidding. Which means, if you do not match with the one sorority that you list, you go bidless.

It also depends on whether the campus guarantees bids. At the campus where I advise Becky would be guaranteed a bid at ABC or XYZ because she maximized her options.

Snap bids, again at the campus where I advise, are offered to girls who A) dropped from recruitment and expressed an interest in snap bids during their exit interview or B) missed the formal recruitment deadline and expressed an interest in continuous open recruitment.

[Titchou]

Snap bids are only issue during formal recruitment - or whatever passes for that on your campus. If you are doing COR, then you are just simply issuing bids and you should follow your org's rules for that and also NPC's for notifying the Greek Life office if those women accept. We hav eno idea what your org's rules are about voting or issuing COR bids. You'd have to ask your province or regional recruitment person about that.

[Titchou]

I really didn't want to take the time to look it up in the MOI /Green book, but here it is:

Page 115 - COB bid card and instructions on filing with PH office
Page 119 - Info on Snap Bids
Page 120 - UA on snap bids
Page 128 - definitions of snap bids and COB

Hope this helps.

[belle1519]

Is it normal or possible for a pnm to get a snap bid from a house that cut her on day 1? My daughter got cut and was very devastated because she thought that she made a very good impression and felt that she stood out.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by belle1519

Is it normal or possible for a pnm to get a snap bid from a house that cut her on day 1? My daughter got cut and was very devastated because she thought that she made a very good impression and felt that she stood out.

Normal - No; possible - Yes. But I wouldn't count on it. If they released her after the first day, the reason is usually pretty definitive - grades, reputation, no rec if required, etc. And those things aren't going to resolve themselves in 3-4 days. She should just move on and be glad they made her feel so comfortable. Obviously very gracious ladies to all.

[belle1519]

I don't attend UGA but at the school I go to, there is a specific house that snap bids majority of it's new pledge class. I want to know why they won't initially keep girls throughout the week then cut them. It it some sort of strategy? One of my friends got cut from this house on day 1 but she received a snap bid from them on bid day. Isn't that kind of weird that they cut her very early on?

[katlady]

Originally Posted by belle1519

Is it normal or possible for a pnm to get a snap bid from a house that cut her on day 1? My daughter got cut and was very devastated because she thought that she made a very good impression and felt that she stood out.

Originally Posted by belle1519

I don't attend UGA but at the school I go to, there is a specific house that snap bids majority of it's new pledge class. I want to know why they won't initially keep girls throughout the week then cut them. It it some sort of strategy? One of my friends got cut from this house on day 1 but she received a snap bid from them on bid day. Isn't that kind of weird that they cut her very early on?

OK, is she your daughter or your friend?? It is getting a bit confusing...

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by belle1519

I don't attend UGA but at the school I go to, there is a specific house that snap bids majority of it's new pledge class. I want to know why they won't initially keep girls throughout the week then cut them. It it some sort of strategy? One of my friends got cut from this house on day 1 but she received a snap bid from them on bid day. Isn't that kind of weird that they cut her very early on?

That falls under the category of "non-ya" -none your business. Membership selection is private and as long as they meet the criteria for their national org, they are welcome to handle it however they want.

[AZTheta]

^^^ great minds think alike (katlady and Titchou). I was just copying all her posts, including her intro post.

She bumped several threads having to do with snap bids and had the same complaint about a chapter in each thread she bumped. So - either she's a mother who doesn't understand how any of this works, OR she's a pnm who doesn't understand how any of this works, OR - whatever.