Probation for Discrimination against Gays

[naraht]

Kappa Alpha Psi at Morgan State University (Alpha Iota chapter) has been placed on probation until 2015 based on a University finding that they violated University policies regarding discrimination by rejecting a candidate based on the fact they were gay. Media messages between brothers were noted as part of the finding.
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/12/f.../#.Up9Bs8RDs1I

[Tom Earp]

Is this another chink in the wall of GLOs selecting who they desire as members?

GLOs are a social group who are selective about who we wish to invite to become members.

So once again others want to rule how we choose members. Don't we have the right to choose who we want?
Not everyone fits into each group. We are not all alike or feel the same, but it should be our choice.
Or could this have been a set up?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Is this another chink in the wall of GLOs selecting who they desire as members?

GLOs are a social group who are selective about who we wish to invite to become members.

So once again others want to rule how we choose members. Don't we have the right to choose who we want?
Not everyone fits into each group. We are not all alike or feel the same, but it should be our choice.
Or could this have been a set up?

Student organizations generally have to adhere to a student code of conduct. A student code of conduct is enforceable so long as it doesn't violate the students' rights. Maryland law forbids discrimination based on sexual orientation, so no, I don't see how there's a problem with enforcing that Code of Conduct.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

So once again others want to rule how we choose members. Don't we have the right to choose who we want?
Not everyone fits into each group. We are not all alike or feel the same, but it should be our choice.

Yes, we have the right to select who wish to join. And yes, fit is a large part of it. But rejecting somebody based on solely or even primarily on basis of sexual orientation is something else. It is the same kind of logic that allowed Greek organizations for decades to forbid non-white or non-christian members from membership.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Also, if you are stupid enough to discuss membership selection via text message, well, you are stupid.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Also, if you are stupid enough to discuss membership selection via text message, well, you are stupid.

Millennials.

[ASTalumna06]

Did anyone read the comments on the article? Some of them are just.. despicable.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Apparently being part of a fraternity that is put on social probation is life ruining. Who knew?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Apparently being part of a fraternity that is put on social probation is life ruining. Who knew?

I'd guess it's the stupid that's really life-ruining.

[Tom Earp]

I guess it is my adversion of more intervention by outsiders coming into our houses that I thought I would post as I did.

I can also understand the exclusion of those that do not fit our so called profile. These gives schools who regulate our organizations a stronger fist of control.
But let me also add, I can only speak for me and some of LXA chapters, we have had gays in them. Most of them were very instrumental in our growth and still are as Alums. In fact two of them, one from my Zeta and another from another Zeta know each other in drag queen clubs in Kansas City, LOL!

Again this shows that the unknown scares or worrys each of us and our GLOs.

[naraht]

For the social fraternities here, I don't think many would object to a school taking action for a similar situation regarding race. OTOH, many would object to the same thing regarding gender.

If Kappa Alpha Psi nationally chose to fight it, they would probably win. A Christian Fraternity has successfully fought to keep rules requiring officers to fit a specific group of beliefs (including the immorality of gays). (I think one was at UNC?)

But I just can't see Kappa Alpha Psi doing that.

[Kevin]

I don't know that it's so clear cut, naraht. The state of Maryland doesn't allow discrimination based along those lines and Kappa Alpha Psi is not a religious organization, so they don't have a free exercise excuse to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I doubt you're right.

[MysticCat]

^^^^ Agree.

[AOII Angel]

I think any group would have a hard time fighting this based on moral grounds and a group's requirements for "Christian" moral character with members sending social media messages with homophobic comments regarding the potential member. The members lost any chance at the moral high ground when they went so public with their thoughts about the PNM.

[naraht]

I agree, I can't see Kappa Alpha Psi doing it. They are not as overtly religious as at least one other member of the NPHC and as such it would be a stretch to see them covered by a religious exemption.

And according to http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opi...,4172534.story , no reaction from Nationals.