Mississippi State Bid Day

[SallyMae]

Today is bid day at MS State. Does anyone have any info?

[DDDlady]

Quota was around 74. Most houses took in the 80s with DG taking the largest at 89.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DDDlady

Quota was around 74. Most houses took in the 80s with DG taking the largest at 89.

I wonder what percentage of whole chapters aren't even that big?

Hail State!

(That may seem a little Nazi-ish out of context, but it's a fight song, just in case any non-MSU fans read the thread.)

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by SallyMae

Today is bid day at MS State. Does anyone have any info?

My daughter pleged Chi O...I think I heard they pledged 86 or 88 girls. I know Chi O, KD, Deta Gam all pleged quota.

I'm just glad it's over. They held the PNM's basically hostage all week. Tough on anyone to have to sit in a tent from early morning until late at night. Kind of tough on the Moms too

[AuburnMom08]

OK someone explain this quota thing to me. How is it determined how much OVER quota houses can go?

Congrats to all the new MSU pledges and their parents!

[gatordeltapgh]

OK quota additions...

Once the RMF specialists figures out the optimum quota, based on the number of women attending pref and making final choices, she will take another look to see if they can match more women by allowing quota additions. The specialist will make an effort to match women so that that they can get their first or second choice - this varies by campus - and to allow more women to be matched. An effort is made so that made so one chapter does not get 10 quota additions and other chapters get 2 quota additions.

The specialists look at the possible quotas ranges and quota additions several ways to maximize the PNM's getting matched and the chapters pledging quota. It is really a wonderful system. On some campuses a PNM must maximize her options and attend all events she is invited to to be eligible for quota additions.

Hope this helps!

[AuburnUmom]

Originally Posted by AuburnMom08

OK someone explain this quota thing to me. How is it determined how much OVER quota houses can go?

Congrats to all the new MSU pledges and their parents!

Not an expert by any means, but here's my basic understanding. Quota additions are based on the total size of the chapter, where a girl fell on the specific bid lists, and how she ranked her choices. It's an effort to place all PNMs who maximized their choices throughout recruitment. i.e.: at most schools, a PNM who elects to "suicide" would not be eligible for quota addition, but one who lists all choices would probably be placed somewhere. It's similar in some ways to snap bids, but those can be extended (by a group that failed to reach quota) to any PNM who was cut from rush earlier in the process or who unsuccessfully "suicided."

[Just interested]

I may be wrong but I think on some campuses even if a chapter gets quota but still falls below total they can snap to total. Can someone tell me if I'm right or off base?

[greekchatter]

Phi Mu also exceeded quota - I think they pledged around 85 girls.

I believe these are record breaking pledge class sizes for all at Mississippi State!!

[AlphaXi_Husky]

Originally Posted by Just interested

I may be wrong but I think on some campuses even if a chapter gets quota but still falls below total they can snap to total. Can someone tell me if I'm right or off base?

From my understanding, a chapter can't snap to total (if doing so means they would exceed quota), but they can COB/COR to total. Meaning that if a chapter is under total and does not hit quota, they can snap to quota and then any additional bids they extend beyond that it's referred to as COB/COR.

However I'm not familiar with some of the larger (ie SEC) recruitments, so maybe they doing things differently, though I haven't heard of what you described.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by AlphaXi_Husky

From my understanding, a chapter can't snap to total (if doing so means they would exceed quota), but they can COB/COR to total. Meaning that if a chapter is under total and does not hit quota, they can snap to quota and then any additional bids they extend beyond that it's referred to as COB/COR.

However I'm not familiar with some of the larger (ie SEC) recruitments, so maybe they doing things differently, though I haven't heard of what you described.

Well, I think the thing is that few people really talk about what the correct terms are and the experience of a girl who was offered a snap bid on bid day or a COB bid on bid day isn't different at all.

[AlphaXi_Husky]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Well, I think the thing is that few people really talk about what the correct terms are and the experience of a girl who was offered a snap bid on bid day or a COB bid on bid day isn't different at all.

I think that can vary from campus to campus. On the campus I advise, snap bids would be distributed in time for the PNM to participate in Bid Day. COB/COR bids have to wait to be extended until after bids from Formal Recruitment have already been distributed (meaning the PNM doesn't participate in whatever revealing Panhellenic has planned).

ETA: but yes, I think you're right in that the terms do get mixed up and in some cases (from what you're describing) they are basically the same thing.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by AlphaXi_Husky

I think that can vary from campus to campus. On the campus I advise, snap bids would be distributed in time for the PNM to participate in Bid Day. COB/COR bids have to wait to be extended until after bids from Formal Recruitment have already been distributed (meaning the PNM doesn't participate in whatever revealing Panhellenic has planned).

OOOh. Sorry for being so dumb. We're really talking about the difference between getting your bid on bid day as a snap and getting it anytime later as a COB?

My guess, and of course I don't really know, is that on campuses that tend to do 95% or more of their recruiting in formal, I bet there's a disposition to let chapters try to pick up as many available people as they can on bid day. It wouldn't surprise me if chapters snapping to quota had a higher priority making calls, but I doubt they'd make girls and groups wait and miss bid day. But again, I don't know.

[AlphaXi_Husky]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

OOOh. Sorry for being so dumb. We're really talking about the difference between getting your bid on bid day as a snap and getting it anytime later as a COB?

My guess, and of course I don't really know, is that on campuses that tend to do 95% or more of their recruiting in formal, I bet there's a disposition to let chapters try to pick up as many available people as they can on bid day. It wouldn't surprise me if chapters snapping to quota had a higher priority making calls, but I doubt they'd make girls and groups wait and miss bid day. But again, I don't know.

No, you're not being dumb (unless I'm being dumb and missing any sarcasm). And on some campuses you may be right about not making chapters and/or PNMs wait to miss bid day. I was just saying on the campus I'm familiar with we can't snap beyond quota and if we were to try and offer any bids beyond quota before Formal Recruitment bids were distributed, we would get fined.

I was attempting to answer Just_Interested's question of snapping to total, which from my understanding you can only "snap" to quota, after which it's technically called COB/COR. Gotta love those technicalities...

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

My daughter pleged Chi O...I think I heard they pledged 86 or 88 girls.

Congrats to your daughter -- it's a wonderful chapter.

Here's a website for new members:

http://nm.chiomega.com/default.aspx