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11-03-2004, 04:38 PM
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No Democrat will be elected to the presidency in 2008. Its just about impossible.
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Or ever again, for that matter.
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11-03-2004, 04:58 PM
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I'd be all about Hillary for president.
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11-03-2004, 05:09 PM
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In all seriousness now,
If you were not able to win with a non-moderate Democrat this time, what makes you think that you would be able to do so in 4 years?
W probably caused some of the most visceral reactions i've ever seen from Democrats(see: MoveOn.org) and was still able to beat Kerry. If the Republicans run a more moderate candidate in 08(which i'd like to see) someone who's a "left-winger" would stand no chance.
Hillary will garner the same response from conservatives, who yesterday showed to be in the majority in this country.
Let someone else from the middle of the Democratic party step up.
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11-03-2004, 05:25 PM
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Hello, welcome to 1865.
Where in the world do people still use the term "carpetbagger"?
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Because it's a term still used today to mean a candidate for any office that uses it as a stepping stone to 'bigger and better things'.
HRC ran for the senate seat in New York because it's ridiculously easy to claim residency to be eligible to run for office (you have to be a resident of the state on Election Day to be eligible). Robert F. Kennedy did the same thing in 1966, then he quit his seat to run for President two years later.
Hillary Rodham's a native Chicagoan, and until she bought the house in Chappaqua, New York, she had very little knowledge of New York's politics and issues. (Betchyerass she got a crash course on 'em when she ran for office.) Such a move was taken in political circles to mean she may have higher political aspirations in the future. Who knows what she has in mind in two or four years? New York doesn't have an 'LBJ law' like Texas does that allows a congressman or senator to run for their old job, while running for another higher office.
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11-03-2004, 06:28 PM
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I think Obama has a lot of good years ahead of him. While that would be a hell of a ticket that I would support, he's too young and green. I think he has great future potential. Everyone is in love with him, but he hasn't begun to serve on a larger than state level.
I also don't think America is ready to handle a non-white male AND a female on the same ticket. Hell, they haven't been able to come up with and/or handle just one on the ticket.
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11-03-2004, 06:33 PM
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Where in the world do people still use the term "carpetbagger"?
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Texas
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11-03-2004, 06:36 PM
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While I think Obama will eventually run for Prez or VP....I think 2008 might be too soon. He was just elected to the senate yesterday. But I know that he sometimes appeals to both republicans and democrats. I still can't decide how I feel about Hillary. And though it is sad...some people may have a problem with a woman president. I certainly would not...but I know some people what would. Perhaps she should run for VP first.
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11-03-2004, 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by hottytoddy
And though it is sad...some people may have a problem with a woman president. I certainly would not...but I know some people what would. Perhaps she should run for VP first.
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I would have a problem voting for a woman, if it were Hilary Clinton.
She's going to have to make serious strides as a policymaker and as a confident leader who shows broad appeal for me to even take her seriously. Obama shows promise . . . for the 2020 election - are we all forgetting how washington works?
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11-03-2004, 08:36 PM
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Hello, welcome to 1865.
Where in the world do people still use the term "carpetbagger"?
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Illinois, in reference to Alan Keyes (Obama's last-minute opponent from MARYLAND).
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11-03-2004, 08:46 PM
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Tell me...what exactly has hillary done besides married bill and published a book?
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11-03-2004, 09:37 PM
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Not a fan of her at all.
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11-03-2004, 10:55 PM
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Right now I'm feeling a Tom Daschle run in 2008.
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11-03-2004, 11:02 PM
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I'm not exactly sure how I feel about Hillary in 2008, but I think the general population would have a little trouble electing her. She's intelligent and a good leader, but I think she's still a little too abrasive to show promise as a presidential candidate. However, a lot can happen in four years.
I do love Obama, though!
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11-03-2004, 11:10 PM
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In order for the Democratic Party to win in 2008 they need to find a moderate, not liberal candidate to run for office. They need to find a candidate with Joe Lieberman's views, but certainly need someone with a little more charisma.
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11-04-2004, 12:40 AM
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MMMM Tom Daschle! I'd be all about that.
While I do think Hillary would make an excellent candidate, she would not win a presidential election. And I'd really like the next Democratic candidate to be someone that could win... because I want a Dem as President in 2008.
Barack Obama is like the hottest politician in life.
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