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Old 08-12-2015, 04:27 PM
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Clemsongirl, I never interpreted your comment as anything more than pointing out regional differences. Not better not worse, just different. I also don't see the Alpha Phi video as a big deal....and I'm old.
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Old 08-12-2015, 04:30 PM
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Thoughtful points, and well stated. However, the time and place for these criticisms might be after recruitment, not while PNMs and their friends and family could easily be reading these boards.
As someone who just got home from spending the day with impressionable teenage girls, I tell them every day what you put out on the internet is there for everyone to see. Once it's out there you can no longer control the message. So by putting the video out there, the proverbial cat is out of the bag. If the criticism is unfair, so be it. If there is praise out there, so be it. THEY, themselves, opened the can of worms by putting the video on YouTube. By doing so it's obvious they want major attention. And they got it. As, we say in PR, whether it be bad or good...at least people are talking about it!

I can also tell anyone who is reading this and then reporting back to Greekrank, I have seen nothing on here anywhere near the level of hate that I saw on Yik Yak about the subject. It's young people on Yik Yak, not the old "biddies". If you want to take aim at people who criticized the video, then head to the Yak.

I am not criticizing the video, nor am I criticizing those who are doing the criticizing."I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
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Old 08-12-2015, 04:36 PM
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also, as a PNM, I dont really see the relevance of any recruitment video but maybe that's just me. I would rather talk with a girl about what the chapter means to her and what their sisterhood is like rather than see a video of the members dancing around.
Agreed. I think videos and skits are dumb.
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Old 08-12-2015, 04:51 PM
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6. What's wrong with Alpha Phi trying to portray themselves as more "West Coast?" If they're fairly new, then it's probably a smart idea for them to find a niche and be really strong in whatever they choose. Besides, isn't Alabama recruiting more people from OOS anyways? Who is to say that they wouldn't choose the more "West Coast" sorority over the pearls and Bible sorority? Who are we as outsiders to judge what PNMs should value and like in a sorority?
Not necessarily in response to your comment alone, but also to a comment earlier in the thread about "judging" -- this seems a little disingenuous since recruitment is all about judging.

PNMs are "judging" chapters, and chapters are "judging" PNMS. Every single day of recruitment. This is why PNMs are advised to clean up their social media, arrive with appropriate attire, and remember that they are trying to impress other women, not frat boys.

And this is why we can spend 2 forum pages discussing whether to wear a necklace and/or what kind of necklace to wear with a recruitment t-shirt. I do agree that these are first-world problems in the big scheme of things.

But we behave as if image and stereotypes do matter -- if these don't, then certainly we are taking our Greek selves waaaay too seriously.
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Old 08-12-2015, 04:53 PM
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THANK YOU.

Grateful there was no Internet/social media/digital cameras when I was in school.

Pretty tired of all the judging. Arizona is full of gorgeous women and men. Our climate is such that you can wear shorts and flip-flops year-around. There is a focus on being healthy and physically fit throughout the lifespan. So what? Put in the context of 18-19 year olds, those videos are fine and reflect what's happening in their world.

Get off Alpha Phi's back. It could just as easily be YOUR chapter that is being talked about here. Seriously. Not kind, not Panhellenic at all. You have your opinion(s) which may or may not be based in fact. Again, so what? I suspect Alpha Phi will have NO TROUBLE attracting new members despite the sniping that is going on here. Go pick up your pearls and restring them.

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This.

It was cute, fun, and likely drew their target audience. From the comments before I saw it, I was expecting a soft-core porno.

Calm down y'all.
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Old 08-12-2015, 04:54 PM
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Agreed. I think videos and skits are dumb.
This is along my lines of thinking as well. Sure, they're fun, but if the point is to show sisterhood, is that what they're really doing?


I'm wondering if the recruitment video will eventually go the way of the skit. As others have stated, it doesn't really show sisterhood as that is a hard concept to display in 3 to 5 minutes. Similar to a skit.


I will add I have seen some videos present the concept of sisterhood well (at least IMO), but it's a rarity.
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Old 08-12-2015, 05:04 PM
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I think the conversation should be about the larger topic of why sororities feel the need to market themselves in this way and fraternities do not, rather than pointing at this chapter and casting judgment.
That's a great point -- I think some sororities may value themselves as they are valued by fraternities -- how many swaps, mixers, etc they have and with whom.

Perhaps this video strikes a nerve with me since it is a chapter on my campus, especially considering the negative press we have received regarding historically white stereotypes and lack of diversity. This video does a lot more to confirm those perceptions (and other sorority stereotypes) than to dispel them.
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Old 08-12-2015, 05:32 PM
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I thought having the football player in the video was a little weird. UA as a whole has a tendency to throw in football whenever they can as a way to say "look at us we have a great football team" particularly when recruiting new student but having a football player in a video aimed at students already at the university is odd to me. it's almost like they are enticing the girls by showing them they hang out with someone on the football team.
I don't know how we can tell the PNMs up and down "don't talk about boys @ rush" and then have a video with a boy pretty prominently featured in it (to the point that some media outlets are calling him the star of it). If they would have used stock footage of the team with them cheering or making signs, that would be a little different. Or if he had an actual connection to them, like chapter sweetheart.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:22 PM
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I thought it was a cute video; the girls are certainly pretty and the house makes me wish I'd gone to a school with real sorority houses.

I wonder how they decided whose butt was going to be filmed while ascending the stairs?

That said, I think they got their idea from Elle Woods' Harvard Law School admissions video.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:30 PM
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The Alpha Phi video is almost exactly the same as the ZTA video, except for the football guy. It is so similar that it must have been shot by the same crew.
Girls lined up inside front door
Girls eating Popsicles
Girls doing gymnastics
Girls hanging on front porch
Girls at the stadium
Girls in bikinis most of the video

As a PNM, I would think if I didn't have a bikini ready bod, I shouldn't join a sorority.
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:15 PM
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:37 PM
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Every time I see a young woman in a "revealing" outfit. I'm tempted to think critically of them. But then I stop myself and think that if I had her figure, I would probably wear what she's wearing.

Gotta go film myself blowing glitter in slow motion.
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:47 PM
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The fact that they are all almost indistinguishable is what bothers me - I don't know that they are therefore very effective. If you cannot tell the difference without seeing the letters, well, you haven't done much in promoting what makes your chapter different.

That said, Gamma Phi Beta videos are the best.
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Old 08-12-2015, 08:11 PM
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Dang it does! Except Bama upped the ante with lingerie and bikinis!
There is zero lingerie in this video and honestly that is not a fair nor accurate statement.

Yes the video is similar to AZ (maybe they meet AZ girls at a conference?? or looked on you tube to see other chapter's video's who knows) The video is also comparable to other groups at Alabama as many seems to have a similar vibe, dress, dancing, pool, intro view around the chapter house etc.

The chapter posted the video right around the same time as other chapters at Bama so they did not post it early to 'get ahead' simply it seems like the campus norm to post shortly before recruitment starts.

So why all the chatter and catty comments? Because the video went viral. That was not within the chapter's control. I don't think when they filmed it (which had to be last spring) they could not know that having an athlete who had a terrible injury in Dec. would cause such interest. Sports sites picked it up and off it went.

Bama recruitment will be over soon enough and perhaps everyone will find a new target to point the flame throwers at....
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Old 08-12-2015, 08:12 PM
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This.

It was cute, fun, and likely drew their target audience. From the comments before I saw it, I was expecting a soft-core porno.

Calm down y'all.
When I saw that a thread about a recruitment video had 3 pages, I just KNEW someone had to be playing beer pong and doing keg stands in it.

Nope.

Perhaps it's because I work with collegians and recruitment in my volunteer role, but I don't see the uproar/issue.

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