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you do know that apartments generally cost more than living in? And the meal plans are the same cost as the required campus one? Yes, Greek Life is always more than non participation...but you get a lot for that -formals, mixers, date nights, retreats, etc...
Yes, that's why I specified live-out costs--the live-in costs probably save money or break even, but that's likely only for a year given the size of the chapters. Do I think it's worth it? Yes, obviously. But I could see a lot of families balking at adding ~$15,000 (assuming one year of living in and meal plan savings) to the cost of a college education. Clearly, lots of UA families are willing to pay that, though.
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So what is it you are actually saying? Greek Life is too expensive? Then why are you here? It just ain't at Alabama....
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When I think of what housing + meal plan costs now at my teeny alma mater - and on campus housing REQUIRED the first two years - and the amount of students that go home every weekend, therefore not even being in the very expensive housing - honestly, 15k at a school the size of Alabama sounds like a drop in the bucket to assure they get the most out of their college time.
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So what is it you are actually saying? Greek Life is too expensive? Then why are you here? It just ain't at Alabama...
Do I think its worth it? Yes.

Is it higher than most other Greek systems, especially considering only one year of living in is likely? Yes, often by a substantial margin, even compared to other housed SEC systems.

Do I think it probably prices some women out of the system at UA? Yes.

Does that matter? Yes, IMO. I think Greek life is wonderful and the costs of a system like UA's are what they are. But they basically require that you have parents that can look at an additional $5,000 or more a year on top of everything else, and go "Sure, honey, no problem." Dues that are half that are manageable for a woman to potentially pay on her own. At some price point, that becomes unrealistic and perhaps prices out good members who would benefit our organizations.
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But the women themselves are driving those chapter budgets! If it was too out of line, THEY would self regulate. The budgets are not handed down from their national orgs. Certainly there are national dues, pledge fees, etc.. As a former financial adviser for moe than one chapter,I can tell you that the largest single item outside of the required ones is "social." And getting that under control is like pulling hen's teeth. Alabama is a VERY social school..so their chapter bills are going to be higher as a result. I assure you -the advisers would change that if they could!
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But the women themselves are driving those chapter budgets! If it was too out of line, THEY would self regulate. The budgets are not handed down from their national orgs. Certainly there are national dues, pledge fees, etc.. As a former financial adviser for moe than one chapter,I can tell you that the largest single item outside of the required ones is "social." And getting that under control is like pulling hen's teeth. Alabama is a VERY social school..so their chapter bills are going to be higher as a result. I assure you -the advisers would change that if they could!
But the women who can't afford to join in the first place can't self-regulate, because they're not inside the system. Sure, if a chapter tried to charge each member $50k a year there would be a mutiny, but as long as there's a big population who can afford it the system doesn't take into account the population who can't.

Clemson dues were about $500 a semester, not including t-shirts and other optional swag, and I'm grateful my parents were willing to pay for it for me but other women were easily able to pay their dues through working part-time as RAs or off campus. When you talk about thousands of dollars that becomes a lot less attainable. I truly do not know what all that money goes towards for Alabama sororities because while chapters at Clemson are not as big, the economy of scale for hosting a formal event doesn't curve that sharply that quickly with a chapter twice the size.
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I know my sorority requires all members to purchase a meal plan at the sorority house. A good portion of the semester fees are for meals. I am pretty sure almost all if not all of the sororities do the same. Now whether members are actually eating at the house is another question.
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But the women who can't afford to join in the first place can't self-regulate, because they're not inside the system. Sure, if a chapter tried to charge each member $50k a year there would be a mutiny, but as long as there's a big population who can afford it the system doesn't take into account the population who can't.

Clemson dues were about $500 a semester, not including t-shirts and other optional swag, and I'm grateful my parents were willing to pay for it for me but other women were easily able to pay their dues through working part-time as RAs or off campus. When you talk about thousands of dollars that becomes a lot less attainable. I truly do not know what all that money goes towards for Alabama sororities because while chapters at Clemson are not as big, the economy of scale for hosting a formal event doesn't curve that sharply that quickly with a chapter twice the size.
On the bright side, I guess these prices will keep the riffraff out.

Oh, wait. That would have been me because even adjusting for inflation, there is no way I could have worked to pay for my sorority membership at these kinds of prices (which is what I did).

These kinds of costs will definitely make sorority membership unattainable for many wonderful women who come from average income families.

It's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison, but it makes me wonder if Alabama ends up going the way of Indiana in terms of becoming less attractive. At the height of the frustration with IU recruitment a few years ago when so many PNMs were ending up without bids, parents (including IU alums) were encouraging their daughters to go somewhere other than IU so they had a realistic chance of getting a bid. There was a huge, now-deleted discussion about it on the NPC website.

At what point does Alabama become less attractive to girls from families of more modest means who still want a Greek experience? There are many other places where they can have an excellent Greek experience at a lower price.
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