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Old 01-29-2015, 08:41 PM
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I agree with you. I can't even figure out how to cause that kind of damage. It looks like an actual bomb went off. Further, there is no possible way that all this could have been done without noise complaints. Security also routinely goes through hotel floors. Where was the entire hotel staff and the other hotel guests when all this was going down? It seems crazy that this could have occurred. In a 1000 room hotel, a security officer will know if one room is smoking pot (whether they choose to do anything about it is another matter). For this to occur and nothing to intervene at the absolute very start is very odd. Everyone would get kicked out immediately.
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:58 PM
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The drinking is getting out of hand, but I also have to wonder if some sort of narcotic was consumed.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:56 PM
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Thoroughly embarrassing and inexcusable. I'm glad my national suspended Xi Chapter.
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Old 02-08-2015, 04:45 PM
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http://www.inquisitr.com/1824669/gay...r-ski-weekend/

The story (above) says that some officials in the community where the ski resort that had the most damage is located are asking for criminal prosecution. Others are against that idea including, reportedly, a 19-year-old man who favors having the students "pay financially and maybe get a slap on the wrist." He also, reportedly, indicated that "partying is very important to college life and sometimes 'stuff like this happens,' and the fraternity and sorority members are paying the price of 'overplayed' reporting."

The story contains some descriptions of the cleanup and repair efforts.

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Old 02-08-2015, 05:11 PM
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These kids need to face the music in a court of law and accept any consequences that may come their way. What they committed were FELONIES, not relatively harmless pranks. Hopefully any form of repaying their debt to society would include therapeutic rehabilitation and long-term education and treatment for alcohol/drug abuse.

Would there be any question about prosecution had this been done by street gangs?
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:13 PM
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The story (above) says that some officials in the community where the ski resort that had the most damage is located are asking for criminal prosecution. Others are against that idea including, reportedly, a 19-year-old man who favors having the students "pay financially and maybe get a slap on the wrist." He also, reportedly, indicated that "partying is very important to college life and sometimes 'stuff like this happens,' and the fraternity and sorority members are paying the price of 'overplayed' reporting."
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:14 PM
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Holy cow, that type of destruction in just a weekend, that takes actual effort. This isn't cosmetic stuff. I don't understand how a party could ever get to this point. It's like the destruction from a riot that happened indoors.
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Old 02-09-2015, 08:21 AM
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I wonder what the consequences would have been if it were D9 members that tore up the place. Interesting.
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Old 02-27-2015, 05:19 PM
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Update: Suspensions, Sanctions, Penalties Stated: Sigma Alpha Mu, Sigma Delta Tau, Alpha Phi, Delta Gamma, Pi Kappa Alpha and Chi Psi

LaneSig, Kevin, and others:

A CBS affiliate reports that Sigma Alpha Mu has been suspended for four years, and Sigma Delta Tau has been put on disciplinary suspension for two years by the U of Michigan. The suspensions are due to the vandalism at a resort.

See the university’s press release, and the CBS station’s story:

http://vpcomm.umich.edu/pa/key/skiweekend.html

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/02/...ort-vandalism/

As for Alpha Phi, Delta Gamma, Pi Kappa Alpha and Chi Psi, separate documents available through the university’s press release detail the charges and their sanctions. Those four were involved in damage at a different resort.
Here's the list:

Alpha Phi
http://vpcomm.umich.edu/pa/key/documents/15-104AP.pdf

Delta Gamma

http://vpcomm.umich.edu/pa/key/documents/15-103DG.pdf

Chi Psi
http://vpcomm.umich.edu/pa/key/documents/15-102CP.pdf

Pi Kappa Alpha
http://vpcomm.umich.edu/pa/key/documents/15-101PKA.pdf

Edited to add: The U of Michigan's newsletter for faculty and staff has an article summarizing the sanctions, suspensions, requirements, etc. See:

http://record.umich.edu/articles/uni...kend-incidents

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Old 03-01-2015, 02:07 PM
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How could the damage be judged, "not malicious" ? (from the university report) so the majority get a slap on the wrist? Alcohol education and Community service. That will make a difference.
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:23 PM
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How could the damage be judged, "not malicious" ? (from the university report) so the majority get a slap on the wrist? Alcohol education and Community service. That will make a difference.
That was at a different resort -- same weekend but different groups. I don't think any pictures have ever been shown for that incident, but it doesn't sound like it was of the same caliber at all (poor planning/too many people per hotel room/excessive wear and tear vs. tearing down ceilings and destroying furniture). It's appropriate that the two incidents were handled separately and that different punishments were meted out as warranted.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:16 PM
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These are punishments by the university. There may be criminal charges made.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:58 PM
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That was at a different resort -- same weekend but different groups. I don't think any pictures have ever been shown for that incident, but it doesn't sound like it was of the same caliber at all (poor planning/too many people per hotel room/excessive wear and tear vs. tearing down ceilings and destroying furniture). It's appropriate that the two incidents were handled separately and that different punishments were meted out as warranted.
Sciencewoman and Others:

http://www.michigandaily.com/blog/wi...ges-top-430000

The Michigan Daily's site has a story / blog (above) about the estimated cost at Treetops ($400,000 - plus, including such things as attorneys' fees, accounting costs, and on and on, above the cleanup, repair and replacement costs). There seems to be some question about whether Sigma Alpha Mu and Sigma Delta Tau will "accept" the new dollar figure for reimbursement purposes.

In addition the story quotes a condo owner at the other resort, who describes the damage done and asks how it could not be considered malicious.

There's a longer story (below) with more details / reaction from the condo owner at the other resort:
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/...ner_unsat.html

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Old 03-01-2015, 05:05 PM
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“This year, they destroyed a chair, pulled drapery rods and towel bars out of the walls, sprayed red alcohol all over the walls, furniture and draperies, urinated on my carpeting, broke dishes, pulled the faces off cabinets, broke shelves in the refrigerator and stole things. How is this not considered malicious destruction of property?” the condo owner said."

Sounds pretty malicious to me.
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:45 PM
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Unless there are surveillance cameras, I think it will be nanny impossible to press criminal charges. Identifying who did the actual damage will be very difficult.
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