Baby raped!

ZTAMiami · #1 08-23-2002, 02:05 PM

http://www.nbc6.net/news/1628202/detail.html

What should we do to people like this?

I can't even comprehend how such a thing could happen.

Steeltrap · #2 08-23-2002, 02:12 PM

In the early 1990s, the newspaper that I worked for covered a trial where a 6-month-old was raped by his babysitter. Unfortunately, the cat only got 25 years in prison.

I wonder, however, will the infant have subliminal memories of the abuse?

FuzzieAlum · #3 08-23-2002, 02:17 PM

Only 25 years????

UF_PikePC98 · #4 08-23-2002, 02:23 PM

What ever happened to being innocent until proven guilty?

Although the circumstances do point to the boy being the rapist, isn't kinda early to be naming someone until the DNA test are back? There have been countless instances where evidence points to a person but lab tests prove their innocence. Since some of you probably would not reckonize court cases of the exact situation let me give you an example many of you might understand......

Example: The Green Mile with Tom Hanks----Everyone thought the black guy raped and murdered the little white girls but it was actually the crazy guy who was helping on the farm....

The demand for death should only be made when the exact person is caught by evidence that DIRECTLY links him to the childs rape, not by circ. evidence.

UF-

*Ahhh--- it would be fun being a defense attorney*

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Steeltrap · #5 08-23-2002, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by FuzzieAlum
Only 25 years????

Yup. I don't recall what Tennessee's sentencing guidelines were at that time.

ZTAMiami · #6 08-23-2002, 02:48 PM

What a damn shame. The baby had to have emergency surgery so you can imagine what kind of physical damage was done to her. Even if she has no recollection or psychological ill effects from this she'll probably have medical issues to deal with.

DWAlphaGam · #7 08-23-2002, 02:51 PM

I actually read a story awhile back about how infant rape is a common occurance in some parts of Africa because of a belief that sex with a young virgin will cure AIDS. There, some men will do this to babies as young as newborns, and it is very hard to catch the perpetrator. I hope that none of these little girls retain any memory of this horror.

I will try to post the story if I can remember where I saw it (I think it was in the Lancet or the British Journal of Medicine).

APhi · #8 08-23-2002, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by UF_PikePC98
What ever happened to being innocent until proven guilty?

Although the circumstances do point to the boy being the rapist, isn't kinda early to be naming someone until the DNA test are back? There have been countless instances where evidence points to a person but lab tests prove their innocence. Since some of you probably would not reckonize court cases of the exact situation let me give you an example many of you might understand......

Example: The Green Mile with Tom Hanks----Everyone thought the black guy raped and murdered the little white girls but it was actually the crazy guy who was helping on the farm....

UF-

*Ahhh--- it would be fun being a defense attorney*

Sooooo... You're defending a baby rapist. Okaaaayyy!

Example: Recent episode of South Park. "So what do you see as the advantages of toddler murder?" Tweak "Well, it's easy." Newscaster "Yes, it is easy."

Note: I was going to start on lawyer jokes but but we have some very admirable lawyers here that I didn't want to insult.

UF_PikePC98 · #9 08-23-2002, 03:22 PM

You totally missed what I was saying.........

I'm not defending a baby rapist

I was saying that none of us know for sure it was him. You can have your thoughts as to who done it but it's wrong to point fingers and name the bad guy when we don't know who did it without a shadow of a doubt.

Yes it is a horrible thing to happen to a baby but it just as bad to label someone a baby rapist when they didn't do it. If someone does that publicly and the boy is NOT the rapist, the some people are in for heafty civil damages. Things such as baby rapist or child molester do not go away from ones name easily, if they do at all.

I'm not defending the boy by no means, I'm simply saying it's alittle barbaric to shout out, "Barbeque the kid" and "he needs to die" without knowing it was him for sure.

*On a different note*------(This may sound wrong but in an attorney mind set one can see what I'm saying.)

If I WAS the defense attorney for the child and he was found guilty of it and then I got him off with only 1/2 of his life in prison on the basis of his upbringing or some unknown mental illness, it would do wonders for my career. Look at what O.J's case did for Johnny Cochran.

APhi · #10 08-23-2002, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UF_PikePC98
If I WAS the defense attorney for the child and he was found guilty of it and then I got him off with only 1/2 of his life in prison on the basis of his upbringing or some unknown mental illness, it would do wonders for my career. Look at what O.J's case did for Johnny Cochran.

Okay, and what I'm saying is that this is the sleaziest of all mentality's to look at this case in terms of loopholes, money and personal glory rather than seeking appropriate punishment for the guilty.

I don't think we're jumping to conclusions here. If the police located the boy and believe there was strong enough evidence to arrest and charge him, he probably did it. I don't think we're dealing with a criminal mastermind.

UF_PikePC98 · #11 08-23-2002, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by APhi

Okay, and what I'm saying is that this is the sleaziest of all mentality's to look at this case in terms of loopholes, money and personal glory rather than seeking appropriate punishment for the guilty.

I don't think we're jumping to conclusions here. If the police located the boy and believe there was strong enough evidence to arrest and charge him, he probably did it. I don't think we're dealing with a criminal mastermind.

Ooooohhhhh I seeeeee.......

So if the police arrest you and have certain charges against you, you think they can't be wrong, with the exception of a few cases cases in history?

I'm sorry to tell you sweetie, the police HAVE been wrong MANY times and I guarentee you that there are some cops somewhere in america that are wrongly accusing someone as we speak, whether it's murder,drugs,solicting for prostituion or whatever. I'm not saying it's a common thing but it does happen alot. Normally their a$$'$ are saved because the person was a reasonable suspect.

greeklawgirl · #12 08-23-2002, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by UF_PikePC98
Look at what O.J's case did for Johnny Cochran.

Off the topic, but I'm so tired to hearing about what OJ's case did for Johnny Cochran. Cochran did not *win* that case because he hasan amazing legal mind.The prosecutors were totally inept, the judge had no handle on criminal procedure and couldn't control his courtroom, and I personally think that some of the jurors had their own agenda. Cochran came out on top because everybody else was so sub-par. Read Vince Bugliosi's book "Outrage." Its an eye-opener from one of the *real* preeminent litigators of the 20th century.

OK now that *that's* off my chest--whew!

--if that 17-year-old is found guilty, I can't think of a punishment awful enough to fit the crime. Raping a baby is too atrocious for words.

CrimsonTide4 · #13 08-23-2002, 04:17 PM

SICK ASS BASTID!!!

MoxieGrrl · #14 08-23-2002, 04:27 PM

From what I've read in psych journals,pedophiles are one of the hardest groups to "cure". Sick people like this make me think that castration is not only a viable option.....but necessary.

Rio_Kohitsuji · #15 08-23-2002, 05:08 PM

Ahh...this is when I believe the practice of simply leading the person in the street and shooting them is applicable.

On a side note, a few miles down the road from me a man broke his 3 month old's legs, he apparantly threw the poor child repeatedly against the wall. Also, it was found that he had done repeated acts to the child previously, such as breaking its ribs and etc. But of course, he'll get off as usual, just like every other scumbag. And here...the local News covered a guy that starved his dog yet not a single word about the child. Don't you looooooovvvvvvveeeeeee society?