Did Phi Beta Sigma help establish Sigma Lambda Beta?

EVERYMAN · #1 07-24-2000, 08:10 PM

Hey... what's up people, this is Everyman here. Hey... I heard the other day from a latino greek that PBS had established SLB and are a cousin organization. Is this true?

Peace,
Everyman... #3...Founding Bruh of BKK in Florida...

"OooooooohhhhhhNoooooooo" in the 2 triple 0oooohhhhh

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Texas_Dove · #2 07-25-2000, 10:56 AM

Everyman,

I wanted to respond to your question but I'm afraid I might not be able to offer much insight. I am a Neo myself in the Land of Blue and White. None of my Chapter Brothers have ever mentioned to me nor have I read that Phi Beta Sigma had anything to do with the creation of Sigma Lambda Beta.

My Brothers and Sisters of the Dove, please offer your insight into this matter.

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Originally posted by EVERYMAN:
Hey... what's up people, this is Everyman here. Hey... I heard the other day from a latino greek that PBS had established SLB and are a cousin organization. Is this true?

Peace,
Everyman... #3...Founding Bruh of BKK in Florida...

"OooooooohhhhhhNoooooooo" in the 2 triple 0oooohhhhh

[This message has been edited by EVERYMAN (edited July 24, 2000).]

Finer Woman10-A-91 · #3 07-26-2000, 12:06 AM

Officially Phi Beta Sigma and Sigma Lambda Beta are NOT related. It is my understanding that one of the members of PBS was one of the Founders of SBL and natually some of the traditions may be similar to those found in Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc.

Any official relationship, would have to be approved by the governing body of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. and would be posted on the National site www.PBS1914.org

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Originally posted by Texas_Dove:
Everyman,

I wanted to respond to your question but I'm afraid I might not be able to offer much insight. I am a Neo myself in the Land of Blue and White. None of my Chapter Brothers have ever mentioned to me nor have I read that Phi Beta Sigma had anything to do with the creation of Sigma Lambda Beta.

My Brothers and Sisters of the Dove, please offer your insight into this matter.

------------------
Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Incorporated...Every Finer Woman's Dream!

SOCRATES 1 · #4 10-02-2008, 09:57 PM

Hey, Im a Beta from Arizona, hopefully I can help explain a bit,

One of our founders, Baltazar Medzona Madrigal, is a Sigma from California. He went to Iowa to continue his education, and saw that there was absolutely nothing for Latinos on that campus, and that many had issues trying to get by. He got permission from Phi Beta Sigma to found a Latino based organization, and met together with 17 other men and founded Sigma Lambda Beta.

PBS as an organization had nothing to do with the founding of SLB, but one individual Sigma, who is also now a Lambda Beta, was the spark that got SLB lit.

Today there is no formal or recognized relationship between the Sigmas and Betas, but on certain campuses everything is real cool. Go research on FIRM.

Some campuses apparently go on line together, which I personally dont agree with, and I know the local Gammas and Zeta here go on line together, but thats a whole different story.

In AZ well recognize eachother as family, well grip and stroll together, but that is the extent. Some campuses or chapters deny everything all together, some act as if were cousins.

Whatever fits the situation works fine with whatever campus, but officially there is nothing between our orgs.

knight_shadow · #5 10-02-2008, 10:58 PM

^^^ Excellent response. Just FYI - make sure you check the post dates. This thread is about 8 years old.

Senusret I · #6 10-02-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SOCRATES 1

He got permission from Phi Beta Sigma to found a Latino based organization, and met together with 17 other men and founded Sigma Lambda Beta.

Help me understand.

Do you really mean that Sigma agreed not to expel or otherwise penalize him for being a member of two general fraternities?

I think your post is altogether wonderful and explains a lot, but at the same time people could interpret the part I quoted as *still* meaning that the Sigmas founded the Lambda Betas, when in fact it's more a case of one Sigma getting special permission to also be in another social (Title IX exempt) fraternity.

That was the longest sentence ever, sorry.

an-Noor27 · #7 09-17-2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

Help me understand.

Do you really mean that Sigma agreed not to expel or otherwise penalize him for being a member of two general fraternities?

I think your post is altogether wonderful and explains a lot, but at the same time people could interpret the part I quoted as *still* meaning that the Sigmas founded the Lambda Betas, when in fact it's more a case of one Sigma getting special permission to also be in another social (Title IX exempt) fraternity.

That was the longest sentence ever, sorry.

Baltazar specifically sought out the national governing body for Phi Beta Sigma and asked for permission. I'm sure that if this permission wasn not granted and anything that he was hoping to accomplish would be at the risk of deletterization <--(if thats even a word lol) then our organization of Sigma Lambda Beta would not be in existence.

naraht · #8 09-17-2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Help me understand.

Do you really mean that Sigma agreed not to expel or otherwise penalize him for being a member of two general fraternities?

I think your post is altogether wonderful and explains a lot, but at the same time people could interpret the part I quoted as *still* meaning that the Sigmas founded the Lambda Betas, when in fact it's more a case of one Sigma getting special permission to also be in another social (Title IX exempt) fraternity.

That was the longest sentence ever, sorry.

Your penalty is to diagram the sentence.

XODUS1914 · #9 10-09-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by an-Noor27

Baltazar specifically sought out the national governing body for Phi Beta Sigma and asked for permission. I'm sure that if this permission wasn not granted and anything that he was hoping to accomplish would be at the risk of deletterization <--(if thats even a word lol) then our organization of Sigma Lambda Beta would not be in existence.

Probably, the best worded explantion of this that I have heard yet. Baltazar is a proud member of both orgs, and is reconized by the Men of the Blue & White. Specifically, because he asked for PBS's blessings first.

The 'cousins' thing is quite unofficial, however, and doesn't get much play outside of Florida.

MasonsInquiries · #10 10-18-2009, 01:16 AM

In the early spring semester of 1986 at the University of Iowa, Baltazar Mendoza-Madrigal a member of Phi Beta Sigma, wanted to further expand the possibility of a Latino based organization with multicultural membership that would grow just as notable. The purpose of creating such an organization came from the social and cultural dynamics at the time. Minorities on campus were under represented and lacked interaction amongst each other. Thus, Mendoza along with seventeen other men began to explore the idea of establishing a Latino-based fraternity in order to unify all under represented minorities and to promote cultural understanding along with academic excellence.
The men met officially on March 7, 1986 with some of the Latino students at the University of Iowa
On April 4, 1986, the members finalized the philosophy of the organization and the eighteen men who came to study in the US from Latin America, Africa & Asia became the eighteen Founding Fathers of Sigma Lambda Beta. They were inducted as brothers at the university's Danforth Chapel with the following principles in mind: brotherhood, scholarship, community service and cultural awareness.
The Founding Fathers were:

Baltazar Mendoza-Madrigal
Mario Buendia
Enrique Carbajal
Thomas Carrasquillo
Manuel Chavarria
Jose Fong
Rudolfo Garza
Luis Jimenez
Luis Marquez
Eric Montes
Kuy Ou
Olakunle Oyeyemi
Jaime Ramirez
Olivero Rivera
Juan Jose Rojas Cardona
Eugenio Soria
Juan Valdez
Ricardo Zamudio

MasonsInquiries · #11 10-18-2009, 01:24 AM

MasonsInquiries · #12 10-18-2009, 01:26 AM

fallacy · #13 11-06-2009, 03:20 PM

i don't believe we established it; however, it is said that we granted a Sigma Bruh permission to do so --- which is how the affiliation of respect for one another had began.

Tumbao · #14 12-20-2009, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by XODUS1914

The 'cousins' thing is quite unofficial, however, and doesn't get much play outside of Florida.

Not true, the FIRM fam is in FULL effect in east district SLB and central region SLG, in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois ect we Grip, Stroll, Step, and even go on line with one another (at some chapters) The idea that FIRM fam is not respected on other yards besides florida, has to do with that fact that betas and gammas aren't on as many yards as PBS & ZPhiB so obviously there would be no FIRM there. Pretty much every school that has an SLB & SLG chapter, there is an active FIRM, Florida & Tx are simply the extremes... where Betas & Sigmas, Gammas and Zetas are almost identical.

oh and...
LB86 to My Beta Padrino "Taita", my Gamma Mom "Fiera", My Sigma Pers "Rude Awakening" & My Zeta perZ "White Mystique"

tahi55 · #15 01-08-2010, 10:35 AM

Why is this a constant argument? mis- communication? discrepancy.. however you would like to put it. it is not an official bond,it is not constitutional, therefore not nationally known, but a bond out of respect for one another. Whether we choose to embrace this or not, is up to the individual. SLG and SLB have an unspoken respect and thus call each other brother and sister,(although even this idea is not nationally embraced) although not constitutionally bound like PBS and ZPB. Likewise, is this "firm fam." Let us all go forth to embrace each other as individuals and to better our communities.