Sorority suspended for "Indian Party." - Page 2

Kevin · #16 04-24-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

And last I heard they hadn't been rounded up on reservations in their native lands.

How is that relevant? Were the girls dressing up as Indians for a "Trail of Tears" party?

Kevin · #17 04-24-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

It wasn't yesterday - if you check the date, it was the end of March. And yes, that is a long time from the time of the party in November. We've discussed this before in another thread.

Yeah.. and the last time it was started here, I moved it to the GL forum. I suppose this could also legitimately fall under the RM heading though, although I'm not really seeing where anyone was ever at risk from this party for anything but butthurtedness.

macallan25 · #18 04-24-2008, 03:38 PM

Ridiculous.

#19 04-24-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stagebear

you have to understand that there's even more to the UND issue. the school has been fighting for years to keep the nickname "the fighting sioux" and the local tribes have been against it saying that it was degrading, so this just added to all the turmoil.

One would think that, considering the current situation with UND's Fighting Sioux nickname and local tribes, the sorority members would think that maybe, just maybe, an Indian-themed party might not be such a good idea.

nittanyalum · #20 04-24-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

How is that relevant? Were the girls dressing up as Indians for a "Trail of Tears" party?

I was responding to this:

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Originally Posted by Kevin

I guess Italians and Greeks are going to be whining about toga parties next.

Your analogy of Italians and Greeks having the same historical grievances as Native Americans doesn't fit.

Tom Earp · #21 04-24-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I was responding to this:

Your analogy of Italians and Greeks having the same historical grievances as Native Americans doesn't fit.

Why?

So what about everyone else pitches a complaint from PCNess?

nittanyalum · #22 04-24-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Why?

So what about everyone else pitches a complaint from PCNess?

Um, what?

DSTCHAOS · #23 04-24-2008, 04:18 PM

Yes, yes...Tom Earp...we know.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=95408

Senusret I · #24 04-24-2008, 04:23 PM

I think that everyone needs to leave Gamma Phi Beta alone. They are a multicultural sorority and have the right to dress in garb that reflects their heritage.

macallan25 · #25 04-24-2008, 04:23 PM

Question.

Do professional sports teams or universities pay Indians to use logos/names/mascots? I have to think the answer is no........because I guarantee you if they did, we wouldn't hear a whisper out of them.

What's sad is that usually money is the only agenda when it comes to these people. I'm beginning to think they could care less about the PC aspect of it so long as they are getting theirs.

DSTCHAOS · #26 04-24-2008, 04:24 PM

LOL.@Senusret

DSTCHAOS · #27 04-24-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

because I guarantee you if they did, we wouldn't hear a whisper out of them.

Maybe, maybe not. So?

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Originally Posted by macallan25

What's sad is that usually money is the only agenda when it comes to these people.

srmom · #28 04-24-2008, 04:40 PM

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Do professional sports teams or universities pay Indians to use logos/names/mascots? I have to think the answer is no........because I guarantee you if they did, we wouldn't hear a whisper out of them.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think FSU has some type of agreement with the Seminole tribe where they share in the rights to the logo. A couple of years ago, there was a hupla about Indian names for teams and the Seminoles told the press to leave them out of it, that they were happy and proud to have FSU using their name and identity as their mascot.

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The tribe officially sanctions FSU's use of Seminoles as a nickname and Chief Osceola as a mascot. Max Osceola, the chief and general council president of the Seminole Tribe of Florida, said Tuesday that it was an "honor" to be associated with FSU.

From an old article - maybe there is no financial agreement - they are just proud to be associated with the college

DSTCHAOS · #29 04-24-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think FSU has some type of agreement with the Seminole tribe where they share in the rights to the logo. A couple of years ago, there was a hupla about Indian names for teams and the Seminoles told the press to leave them out of it, that they were happy and proud to have FSU using their name and identity as their mascot.

That's called "having a sense of ownership."

They don't feel mocked, belittled or objectified in that specific context. They have endorsed it (there is probably more to it than we are being told) and therefore don't feel that images are being taken and used against them.

deltalove16 · #30 04-24-2008, 05:22 PM

Last year at my school someone (not sure if it was even a house!) had a party on Martin Luther King Day called a "Pimps and Hos" party. This was treated like the epitome of racism by our administration, including an open forum, etc. etc.

So, some students decided that they would show how silly they thought it was by protesting a party some frat house had a week later, one that was called "Redneck Hoes" or something like that. Anyway, the admin basically told them it was no big deal. Similarly, frats hold BET Vs. CMT date dashes and not a word is said by the admin.

I think they pick and chose, really.