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03-17-2016, 10:01 AM
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US Presidential Election 2016
...because there was no thread dedicated to its discussion.
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03-20-2016, 01:24 PM
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...because there was no thread dedicated to its discussion.
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There kinda was, but I'm noticing it was removed. Anyway, as of now I've decided not to vote this election. I have my reasons, and I'm still holding out for a third party candidate, but I'm definitely not voting for any of the current candidates.
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03-20-2016, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NWguy
There kinda was, but I'm noticing it was removed. Anyway, as of now I've decided not to vote this election. I have my reasons, and I'm still holding out for a third party candidate, but I'm definitely not voting for any of the current candidates.
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I'm actually curious as to how none of the five still active would be acceptable. I can easily imagine those for whom neither Trump nor Clinton would be acceptable or even Trump/Clinton/Bernie would be unacceptable, but together Clinton and Bernie seem to cover everyone who voted Democrat in the last election and Cruz/Kasich every one who voted Republican in the last election. (Trump is from Alpha Centauri in that regard)...
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03-20-2016, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by naraht
I'm actually curious as to how none of the five still active would be acceptable. I can easily imagine those for whom neither Trump nor Clinton would be acceptable or even Trump/Clinton/Bernie would be unacceptable, but together Clinton and Bernie seem to cover everyone who voted Democrat in the last election and Cruz/Kasich every one who voted Republican in the last election. (Trump is from Alpha Centauri in that regard)...
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For me, it's not whether they are acceptable, it's whether they are fit to be the top leader of this country. I think Bernie has the best ideas, Clinton has a strong political resume, Kasich is a good Congressman, but personally I don't feel either is fit for POTUS.
Cruz is not a good politician (IMO) and Trump is a joke (in many people's opinions).
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03-20-2016, 09:25 PM
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For me, it's not whether they are acceptable, it's whether they are fit to be the top leader of this country. I think Bernie has the best ideas, Clinton has a strong political resume, Kasich is a good Congressman, but personally I don't feel either is fit for POTUS.
Cruz is not a good politician (IMO) and Trump is a joke (in many people's opinions).
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You sound like a toddler holding his breath in the midst of a temper tantrum. Not voting at all is not going to give you a candidate you like better, nor is it going to help our country in any way. If you can't get on board with a third party, write someone in that you do like. Our forefathers died for you to have the right to vote. Respect their sacrifice.
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03-20-2016, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by amIblue?
You sound like a toddler holding his breath in the midst of a temper tantrum. Not voting at all is not going to give you a candidate you like better, nor is it going to help our country in any way. If you can't get on board with a third party, write someone in that you do like. Our forefathers died for you to have the right to vote. Respect their sacrifice.
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Choosing to not vote has nothing to do with respect. I know people who chose not to vote in 2004 between Bush and Kerry; that's their choice and if they felt neither candidate was worthy of their vote, then I respect that.
Voting is a privilege and one that I've been proud to have for several elections now. This election, however, I wouldn't feel proud to vote for any of the candidates; I feel like we deserve better as a country. Why would I vote for Clinton to block Trump from getting it, when I feel neither is worthy in the first place? If it comes down to those two candidates - and it's shaping up that way - I could care less either way who gets it.
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03-21-2016, 10:00 AM
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I repeat what I said in another thread. You are not limited to only Democrat and Republican.
There will be a Libertarian candidate on the ballot in all 50 states. There will probably be a Constitution Party candidate and others."
Can they win? Not likely (well, perhaps Libertarian, but I doubt it). However, isn't it worth our time to show the major parties they are not representing us well and it's time to change?
And if all of us who don't think either of the major party candidates is suited for president actually voted for one we did believe to be better, the message would be very powerful.
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03-21-2016, 10:51 AM
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Democrat here...
I'm a big government Liberal. I live in the county immediately north of Washington DC (Montgomery County, MD) and have voted for two Republicans in my life... I still haven't decided on who I'm voting for in the Maryland Democratic Primary and I'm probably going to vote strategically rather than necessarily for the candidate that I necessarily prefer.
I have an overriding rule regardless of Party in that every president of the United States has served as VP, US Sen, US HoR, (in the) Cabinet, State Governor or Army General and I see no reason for that to change. The last time one of the major parties proposed a candidate that didn't fit that was 1940. As such I opposed both Jesse Jackson Jr.(D) and Pat Robertson(R).
I'm trying to imagine what the Republican Party Leadership is going through, the comparison with Trump doesn't seem to be either Bernie Sanders (who is a known quantity that has worked with the Democratic Establishment for decades) *or* Jesse Jackson Jr., but rather if in 2008, Lyndon Larouche had been beating both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama...
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03-21-2016, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DGTess
I repeat what I said in another thread. You are not limited to only Democrat and Republican.
There will be a Libertarian candidate on the ballot in all 50 states. There will probably be a Constitution Party candidate and others."
Can they win? Not likely (well, perhaps Libertarian, but I doubt it). However, isn't it worth our time to show the major parties they are not representing us well and it's time to change?
And if all of us who don't think either of the major party candidates is suited for president actually voted for one we did believe to be better, the message would be very powerful.
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Sorry, Tess, but the Libertarians are worse than the five obvious options. Prime example: Rand Paul crashed and burned.
I find many of these third party candidates as dangerous as the reality star who is running. They just don't have his big mouth.
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03-22-2016, 02:25 PM
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Sorry, Tess, but the Libertarians are worse than the five obvious options. Prime example: Rand Paul crashed and burned.
I find many of these third party candidates as dangerous as the reality star who is running. They just don't have his big mouth.
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I never saw Rand Paul as truly libertarian. Those who don't have the courage of their convictions, who want the Republican mantle while they push against it, are useless, in my book.
What makes Johnson different from most third party candidates is that he knows who's who in the Republican party, but was willing to tell them where to get off.
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03-21-2016, 04:04 PM
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I always vote. Always. Both in the primaries and in the elections. I've missed voting in one primary, and that is it.
One candidate in each race is going to win. Some years my task is to pick the best of the possibilities even though my enthusiasm is not very high. Other years I enthusiastically get behind a candidate.
I don't buy the position that it doesn't matter which wins. Of course it does! And there are many, many ways to be an involved citizen after the election is over to bring pressure to bear for policies I believe are beneficial for the country.
Yes, it is a privilege to vote. But is is also a duty and responsibility as a citizen. After all, it is our country and its citizens that are at stake!
I'm another life-long Democrat. And proud to be a liberal. BTW, where is all that "free stuff" I'm supposed to be getting? :-D
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03-21-2016, 08:07 PM
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I'm another life-long Democrat. And proud to be a liberal. BTW, where is all that "free stuff" I'm supposed to be getting? :-D
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That's what I keep saying!
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03-22-2016, 06:30 PM
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One of my Facebook friends posted, "bring your souls to the polls" in reference to the voting in AZ today. I replied to his post with, "did you mean to say sell your souls at the polls?"
He didn't find it as funny as I did.
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03-22-2016, 07:01 PM
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My friend in Arizona said it was a one hour wait to vote where she went, in the hot sun. They only had 5 booths available. So, she left and is going to try later today.
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03-23-2016, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
One of my Facebook friends posted, "bring your souls to the polls" in reference to the voting in AZ today. I replied to his post with, "did you mean to say sell your souls at the polls?"
He didn't find it as funny as I did.
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I can likely understand why he wouldn't. In many states, churches, primarily African-American churches but perhaps there are others, have organized efforts to get church and community members to polling locations -- often after Sunday services, thus the phrase "Souls to the Polls." I know many AA churches, here in Ohio, the broader Midwest, East Coast and South who are very serious about this.
Particularly in the face of past and current efforts -- largely by the GOP to be honest -- to tamp down the AA and other minority vote with false charges of voter fraud, trying to limit the length of early voting, etc..
Souls to the Polls is part of larger efforts undertaken by churches and other organizations to make sure the right to vote, earned at a terrible cost by previous generations, is able to be exercised.
That may be why dude didn't find your comment funny.
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