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Old 01-18-2008, 04:25 PM
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Penn State Alums Urging Changes to Dry Policy (Phi Delta Theta)

The January 18 Penn State student paper has the story:

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...ainst_dry.aspx

Alumni of the (former) Phi Delt chapter at Penn State are reportedly planning to challenge the fraternity's national "dry" policy. The article indicates that they hope to be able to get a new set of national officers elected at the fraternity's next national convention. With new officers they hope to modify the current policy on alcohol.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:25 PM
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Veeerry interesting, thanks for posting the article. I understand their point, unless things have changed radically on campus, it's got to be unbelievably tough for them to compete in that greek system as a totally dry house. They'll attract pledges just because they're Phi Delt and have such a strong national reputation, but like it or not, being totally dry will hurt them socially in that huge system.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:37 PM
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If they are the only dry house on campus, I could see how that can somewhat hurt recruitment. It seems, though, that the alumni view alcohol as the fraternity's main selling point. You can go to a bar to drink; the fraternity should be about business, for the most part. The dry policy was undoubtedly put into effect for a reason, so they may want to focus their energy on something else.

Interesting read, though.

ETA: Is the dry policy a national mandate by Phi Delt, or is this something that was imposed on this specific chapter?
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:28 PM
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. . . ETA: Is the dry policy a national mandate by Phi Delt, or is this something that was imposed on this specific chapter?
knight_shadow, I'm not a Phi Delt, but I believe the answer to your question can be found on Phi Delta Theta's international web site, in the "About Us" section, specifically in the "Alcohol-free Housing" portion of "About Us."

I think you can get to Phi Delt's international web site via

http://www.phideltatheta.org

(Also, of course, a Phi Delt or two on GC may be willing to PM you with information about their international policy.)
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Old 01-19-2008, 12:25 AM
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:48 AM
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Theta Chi (also at Penn State) is a dry national.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:04 PM
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Theta Chi (also at Penn State) is a dry national.
Doesn't Theta Chi have a waiver policy which allows a chapter to have alcohol in the house, provided they meet certain criteria? I believe Phi Delt is (or was) the only national that did not have some sort of waiver policy.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:37 PM
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Yea our alcohol-free housing applies to every chapter, not just Penn State. I don't like it too much either, since sometimes after a long day I just wanna crack open a cold one, but I cant, and I either have to go to a bar or a friends house and sometimes I just dont feel like going out. But thats just my 2 cents.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:07 PM
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knight_shadow, I'm not a Phi Delt, but I believe the answer to your question can be found on Phi Delta Theta's international web site, in the "About Us" section, specifically in the "Alcohol-free Housing" portion of "About Us."
Got it. Thanks.

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Yea our alcohol-free housing applies to every chapter, not just Penn State. I don't like it too much either, since sometimes after a long day I just wanna crack open a cold one, but I cant, and I either have to go to a bar or a friends house and sometimes I just dont feel like going out. But thats just my 2 cents.
Quick question: If your chapter has a house, is there some sort of requirement for living in it? I ask because I also like to come home and have a beer after a long day, but if my org had a stipulation like that, I just wouldn't live in the house.
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:26 AM
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>Doesn't Theta Chi have a waiver policy which allows a chapter to have alcohol in the house...

Tex, You are correct:

Effective July 1, 2003, use or possession of alcohol within any chapter house or on any
chapter properties at any time, whether or not in conjunction with any Fraternity event, and whether or
not by any active member, alumnus member, New Member, or non-member, shall be strictly
prohibited, except where a chapter is granted a waiver by the Grand Chapter to allow the use or
possession of alcohol in strict conformance with Federal, state and local laws and the rules and
regulations of the institution and of Theta Chi Fraternity.
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:57 PM
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Quick question: If your chapter has a house, is there some sort of requirement for living in it?
Bumping this because I don't remember seeing any replies for it.

Anyone want to shed some light on this?
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:58 PM
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Phi Delt's house here is about as dry as the pacific ocean.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:56 AM
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Phi Delt chapters that want to be wet should look a becoming a local like Virginia and Sewanee. You could also join another national.....
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Phi Delt's house here is about as dry as the pacific ocean.
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:21 PM
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Doesn't Theta Chi have a waiver policy which allows a chapter to have alcohol in the house, provided they meet certain criteria? I believe Phi Delt is (or was) the only national that did not have some sort of waiver policy.
I'm pretty sure that Kappa Sig is a dry national as well.
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Old 02-09-2008, 02:28 PM
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If and only if the playing field is equal.

All or most will have a policy but it does not mean it is totaly followed!

These regulations are placed because of R M! Dah, the name of this thread.

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