Recs being dropped for PNMs? - Page 6

Cheerio · #76 06-09-2021, 06:47 PM

I see by the television news people with a lot of time on their hands are continuing to program robots for just about any/every job and activity. Who's up for programming multiple, hard-working 24/7 robots to write Sorority Recs for PNMs in need?

Cheerio · #77 07-25-2021, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

I asked one of our former national officers about this. This lady is very involved in the fraternal Capitol Hill efforts.
Being recommended for membership by a current member is a vital part of fraternal organizations legally remaining single sex groups.
That's what she told me. Phi Mu has gotten around this by their national prez just recommended everybody sight unseen.
NPC seems to be pushing for this as a body.
It'll be interesting to see how they get around this little requirement....or maybe they just want to open every group up to everybody?

Is there any NPC group currently in violation of the bolded above?

AnchorAlumna · #78 07-25-2021, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio

Is there any NPC group currently in violation of the bolded above?

Hard to say it's in violation if it's not in their Constitution or bylaws.

honeychile · #79 07-25-2021, 10:13 PM

At the risk of being redundant, if anyone can recommend any PNM for any sorority, doesn't that negate the whole concept? What's to stop Nancy Nu from writing dishonest recs for all of the local PNMs to all but her sorority?

thetalady · #80 07-25-2021, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

At the risk of being redundant, if anyone can recommend any PNM for any sorority, doesn't that negate the whole concept? What's to stop Nancy Nu from writing dishonest recs for all of the local PNMs to all but her sorority?

AMEN!!! Recs are just about meaningless at this point. Why waste the time if anyone, non-alumnae, non-Greek, man, etc, can write a rec?

AGDee · #81 07-26-2021, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thetalady

AMEN!!! Recs are just about meaningless at this point. Why waste the time if anyone, non-alumnae, non-Greek, man, etc, can write a rec?

As I noted earlier in the thread, it doesn't mean they all carry the same weight. However, if someone like a high school principal wrote a rec, would you really think it was meaningless? When these students applied for college, they didn't only accept recommendation letters from the school's alumni. When you apply for a job, you don't have to have references from that company. That would be insane.

carnation · #82 07-26-2021, 04:53 PM

I have known principals to write various kinds of recs for many, many kids they didn't even know. This has resulted in a lot of jerky, dramatic, or mean kids getting awards, etc. only because they had good grades. (Which, come to think of it, were achieved by cheating in some cases.)

FSUZeta · #83 07-26-2021, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation

I have known principals to write various kinds of recs for many, many kids they didn't even know. This has resulted in a lot of jerky, dramatic, or mean kids getting awards, etc. only because they had good grades. (Which, come to think of it, were achieved by cheating in some cases.)

This.

naraht · #84 07-27-2021, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

I asked one of our former national officers about this. This lady is very involved in the fraternal Capitol Hill efforts.
Being recommended for membership by a current member is a vital part of fraternal organizations legally remaining single sex groups.
That's what she told me. Phi Mu has gotten around this by their national prez just recommended everybody sight unseen.
NPC seems to be pushing for this as a body.
It'll be interesting to see how they get around this little requirement....or maybe they just want to open every group up to everybody?

I've got a *really* hard time imagining the statement in Bold being true. The fraternities of the NIC, Kappa Beta Gamma and (of both genders) the NPHC and NALFO seem to be in no threat of losing their Title IX status.

FSUZeta · #85 07-27-2021, 06:18 PM

Stay in your lane Naraht.

kdonline · #86 08-15-2021, 01:23 PM

Kappa Delta no longer requires recs for membership. Our HQ has also completely revised the rec form.

My opinion is that recs lost their value years ago now that 1) anyone can request a rec from a sorority member they find online - and so many are willing to write them. 2) for some sororities, anyone can write them.

I’ve brought this up 2 years in a row on the r/sororities Reddit and am tremendously downvoted.. ��

AnchorAlumna · #87 08-15-2021, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kdonline

My opinion is that recs lost their value years ago now that 1) anyone can request a rec from a sorority member they find online - and so many are willing to write them.

Well, they wouldn't have it sorority alumnae had been trained properly as pledges/new members.
Another fallout of the shorter pledging period.

ASTalumna06 · #88 08-15-2021, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Well, they wouldn't have it sorority alumnae had been trained properly as pledges/new members.
Another fallout of the shorter pledging period.

Why couldn't they train initiated collegiates? Why only new members?

kdonline · #89 08-16-2021, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Well, they wouldn't have it sorority alumnae had been trained properly as pledges/new members.
Another fallout of the shorter pledging period.

The shortened pledge period has nothing to do with it.

I was initiated during the 1980s, and spent all 4 years as an active, in a large house at an SEC school. Not once were we given training on how to write a recommendation.