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Old 07-24-2009, 02:55 PM
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Also, if they're going to take phones, why not take computers too? I feel like the internet can cause more rush damage than a cell phone can...
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Old 07-24-2009, 04:33 PM
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Usually the girls don't have their internet set up yet, as it is not free on campus and each student has to pay and set up an account. As far as why the phones are taken away, you would (or maybe you wouldn't) be surprised at the lengths actives will go to to get in touch with PNM's (and vice versa). There have been issues in the past with people doing things like changing an active's name in their cell phone to another name or a male name to hide the fact that they're communicating. In addition, limited phone time prevents girls from being stressed out or influenced by heliparents and friends. Plus, incessant texting and phone calls takes away from the bonding experience that the week provides. In my experience as a former recruitment counselor, when the girls got over the initial shock of not texting constantly it wasn't that big of a deal.
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:52 PM
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I'm confused. Why would the PNMs have to surrender their phones because of communication between actives and alums? (Which doesn't make sense, either. Unless Panhellenic has a no-alums-during-recruitment policy that I'm not aware of.) Do you mean prevent communication between actives and PNMs?

I can see why it could be beneficial to remove cell phones from PNMs, but not for any reasons already suggested. For me, the main reason would be to prevent helimomming and actually require PNMs to think about their decisions on their own, without constant updates/input from home.

Whatever the reason, I think it's a fine idea. I'm surprised I hadn't heard anything about it before - I'll have to look for the other discussion VandalSquirrel referenced.
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For most people, cell phones are a primary form of communication since most schools don't supply landline plugs anymore. What if there's an emergency? What if a girl needs to make plans for a group project? What if she's an only child and her mom has separation anxiety and needs to talk to her every night? (haha, my mom did this)

Also, if they're going to take phones, why not take computers too? I feel like the internet can cause more rush damage than a cell phone can...
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Usually the girls don't have their internet set up yet, as it is not free on campus and each student has to pay and set up an account. As far as why the phones are taken away, you would (or maybe you wouldn't) be surprised at the lengths actives will go to to get in touch with PNM's (and vice versa). There have been issues in the past with people doing things like changing an active's name in their cell phone to another name or a male name to hide the fact that they're communicating. In addition, limited phone time prevents girls from being stressed out or influenced by heliparents and friends. Plus, incessant texting and phone calls takes away from the bonding experience that the week provides. In my experience as a former recruitment counselor, when the girls got over the initial shock of not texting constantly it wasn't that big of a deal.
We do recruitment before school starts, so there is NO internet access on campus until they register their computers and deal with the campus IT people, the women are staying on campus traveling in groups, and to the best of my knowledge if they leave campus they are in their groups (I've seen a recruitment group out shopping or having a meal). This is to prevent the influence of ANYONE (parents, boyfriends, other relatives, actives, alumnae) during this time. I am not sure if there is a designated time to check voice mails but my school is one where any parent can call the Dean of Students Office (where Greek Life is located) to report family emergencies, illness, so messages can and do get passed to any student all year long, not just during recruitment. When I was in the ER and briefly hospitalized I had the ER call the Dean to notify my professors I was legitimately out, and so there wasn't an issue with missing class and exams. Yes, it is a bit old timey, but it works for us. I'd also like to think the Dean of Students Office acts as the heli-parent filter to other campus departments.

I think this is a good introduction for students and parents to realize that now at college they are not accessible when a parent wants (or when they want), and that turning off their phones for class is doable and not the end of the world. Does no one ever go camping or somewhere where there isn't cell service and just suck it up for a few days?
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