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01-11-2018, 10:06 AM
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Alpha Kappa Lambda Eliminates Pledging
Alpha Kappa Lambda fraternity has announced an immediate elimination of their pledging process.
New members are to go through a 3 day/night education experience and are required to go through ritual initiation within 120 hours of pledging.
http://akl.org/akl-new-member-progra...-our-chapters/
"Why is Alpha Kappa Lambda making this change?
Over recent years the new member programs run by many of our chapters have been more detrimental than positive. Despite expanded education and resources hazing incidents have increased substantially. Retention rates have also started to drop. Academics reports for new members tend to be lower than the chapters. Eliminating pledge programs should significantly reduce many ills our chapters have been experiencing"
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01-11-2018, 10:21 AM
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If that's what they think will keep them relevant. As an aside, I've never seen such a transparent organization. Want to see the recruitment/retention statistics, outstanding Omega Fi contracts and balances due to HQ from each chapter? They make that stuff public.
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01-11-2018, 11:01 AM
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If that's what they think will keep them relevant. As an aside, I've never seen such a transparent organization. Want to see the recruitment/retention statistics, outstanding Omega Fi contracts and balances due to HQ from each chapter? They make that stuff public.
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That's something I noticed when I was talking with a couple friends in TKE about their top chapters-there is so much information about each chapter publicly available on their website that I've never seen ADPi release. You can see why the top TKE chapters are the top, or at least see some of the numbers that go into the rankings, but the ADPi process is very opaque.
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01-11-2018, 11:10 AM
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I could understand why organizations would release information about their "top" houses. Some of those top tier houses are riddled with RM or drug issues which aren't going to present on paper until you have sexual assaults being reported or someone is died or injured to to hazing and/ore substance abuse. Showing that top chapters are "top" is sort of like marketing a race horse which is the perfect size/weight, has a great record, while ignoring and not disclosing its inoperable cancer.
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01-11-2018, 11:26 AM
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I could understand why organizations would release information about their "top" houses. Some of those top tier houses are riddled with RM or drug issues which aren't going to present on paper until you have sexual assaults being reported or someone is died or injured to to hazing and/ore substance abuse. Showing that top chapters are "top" is sort of like marketing a race horse which is the perfect size/weight, has a great record, while ignoring and not disclosing its inoperable cancer.
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Well in the example I mention you can see all the chapter statistics, not just the best ones. I cite it in contrast to ADPi where there are no statistics provided for any chapters. Although to be frank I've not seen any NPC sororities post statistics like AKL or TKE publicly.
http://www.tke.org/chapter-rankings
I also like the way some NPHC groups post their membership and chapter suspensions or expulsions. If you think a chapter isn't on the up-and-up, or that someone is lying about being a member in good standing, the whole world can check online and confirm.
http://www.sgrho1922.org/expulsions-suspensions
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01-11-2018, 11:33 AM
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Well in the example I mention you can see all the chapter statistics, not just the best ones. I cite it in contrast to ADPi where there are no statistics provided for any chapters. Although to be frank I've not seen any NPC sororities post statistics like AKL or TKE publicly.
http://www.tke.org/chapter-rankings
I also like the way some NPHC groups post their membership and chapter suspensions or expulsions. If you think a chapter isn't on the up-and-up, or that someone is lying about being a member in good standing, the whole world can check online and confirm.
http://www.sgrho1922.org/expulsions-suspensions
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Wait... TKE ranks their chapters?!
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01-11-2018, 11:49 AM
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Take those numbers with a grain of salt. My internal information on the TKE chapter is vastly different. I won't give up confidential materials, but considering how different the number is, I find it hard to think any of that is reliable.
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01-11-2018, 10:22 PM
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..... As an aside, I've never seen such a transparent organization. ...
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Would Delta Upsilon fall into that same category since they are non-secret?
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01-12-2018, 02:27 AM
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01-12-2018, 01:54 PM
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Yeah, wow. I guess that is one way to take care of ex-member perps.
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01-12-2018, 01:59 PM
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holy shit on SGR! It even says banned POTENTIAL members!
In my experience, the men are way less secretive about information than women. For whatever reason, sororities think that everything they do is a secret. It's sorta silly, but whatever
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01-12-2018, 04:49 PM
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Yeah, we don't play and neither do DST, AKA and Zeta.
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holy shit on SGR! It even says banned POTENTIAL members!
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I also like the way some NPHC groups post their membership and chapter suspensions or expulsions. If you think a chapter isn't on the up-and-up, or that someone is lying about being a member in good standing, the whole world can check online and confirm.
http://www.sgrho1922.org/expulsions-suspensions
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01-15-2018, 08:53 AM
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Take those numbers with a grain of salt. My internal information on the TKE chapter is vastly different. I won't give up confidential materials, but considering how different the number is, I find it hard to think any of that is reliable.
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What exactly is TKE lying about? It's kind of convenient that you can't cite anything because muh confidential sources.
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01-15-2018, 09:05 AM
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What exactly is TKE lying about? It's kind of convenient that you can't cite anything because muh confidential sources.
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I receive confidential sources because I am a chapter adviser at my alma mater. On a semesterly basis, I receive membership and grade information for every FSL organization on campus which has more than one member. With regard to our TKE chapter, I'm in dangerous proximity to not receiving grade information for that chapter due to membership concerns. 26 members as reported on that website is #fakenews.
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01-15-2018, 09:13 AM
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I receive confidential sources because I am a chapter adviser at my school. Let me just tell you--the website's info is WAY off. Unless you think I'm lying?
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What are they lying about? I don't know you. Why should I believe what some person on the internet who says he is a Sigma Nu says about TKE?
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