Bob Jones University

[Erik P Conard]

Maybe we could all get busy and try to point out to those so-called Christian schools that they oughta have national fraternity
and sorority chapters, even ethnic and multiculural ones....
Just think, old Erskine in SC could then restore the Pi chapter of
Sigma Chi, Mu Second of KA, the SC Mu of SAE...and...just think if
we'd get all those military schools back, we'd just go a-hellin'
And the ladies schools, academies, and international ones, golly,
we got our work cut out for us.
In the meantime, perhaps the BJ or BYU or OBU or OCC or others
could see the light. 'course the sales of pantyhouse would go down, but, heck, just thinkin' out loud.
But then we could work on the fruitcakes, like Reed, Grinnell, Principia, Wooster, Oberlin, Wheaton, Cornell (Iowa) and the
Sisters...and so on...my won't we be busy.
Gosh, Fraternity is for life!

[TSteven]

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
Just think, old Erskine in SC could then restore the Pi chapter of
Sigma Chi...

Sigma Chi Fraternity's Pi Chapter is currently located at Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama.

Pi Chapter History:

The original Pi Chapter was chartered in 1860 at Erskine College in South Carolina, and after it was forced to disband by the Civil War, the charter was granted to a petitioning group at Howard College in Marion, Alabama (now Samford University in Birmingham, AL). The Pi Chapter at Howard was a prominent chapter in Sigma Chi, and the installing Chapter for Iota Iota at the University of Alabama.

[JohnsDGsweethrt]

ok i feel really compelled to post b/c bj is like 2 minutes away from furman, where i went to school. one of my sisters worked at schlotzskys which is really close to bob jones and some of the other bob jones students worked there too. they were cheerleaders and would come in after the basketball games with there knee length cheerleading skirts on. pi kappa phi would always make their pledges go and serenade girls walking to and from dinner only b/c they knew it would scare the crap out of the girls. classic. they also are not allowed to hold hands or kiss last time i checked. and yes they do have k - 12 grades

[RedRoseSAI]

Originally posted by JohnsDGsweethrt
they also are not allowed to hold hands or kiss last time i checked

Can you imagine not holding hands or kissing someone until you marry them???

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by RedRoseSAI
Can you imagine not holding hands or kissing someone until you marry them???

I saw a Wedding Story where the couple didn't kiss until their wedding day. It was really awkward and a little creepy. I'm sure it was just the couple - certainly other people can do these things without being so weird about it.

[ZTAngel]

Originally posted by RedRoseSAI
Can you imagine not holding hands or kissing someone until you marry them???

I couldn't imagine!

I am all about the theory that you need to try it before you buy it.

[DGMarie]

I think the student handbook really does say it all. Having been raised in SC, I can say it really has no equal when that's the type of environment your interested in. I like the reference to nothing above G rated movies and to check your handgun at the door. What a place!

It reminds me of the Hotel California song: you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.


http://www.studentsreview.com/SC/BJU_c.html#comments

[AXORissa]

They actually teach science, but get this...

"The Christian teaching of science requires not only a good command of basic subject matter, but also the spiritual perception to discern truth from error in a great variety of contexts. As a prerequisite for this, the Christian teacher of science must be thoroughly grounded in the Word of God. Moreover, he must have firmly implanted in his mind a biblical framework of truth which serves as the touchstone for his decision making. True science will fit that framework; anything that fails to fit the biblical framework must be rejected as erroneous. The present discussion demonstrates the need for a distinctively Christian philosophy of science teaching and surveys the differences between Christian and secular science education."

oy vey.

also...

"Third, the Christian student who receives a thorough grounding in true science develops his defenses against a number of "isms" that are built upon "science falsely so called" (I Timothy 6:20)—evolutionism, communism, fascism, scientism, modernism, liberalism, humanism, and environmentalism."

*bangs head on desk*

equating evolution with fascism? and last time I checked, humanism and environmentalism were GOOD things... being good to mankind and saving the earth are bad and must be defended against?

[Tom Earp]

emb021
ETAL.

I place this like ETAL because of the many posts here!

I dont Truely Think any of you Especially You Erik, totally Understand The or This type of school!

Just Who are you to judge this type of School?

Maybe each of you have no concept of what they may require and teach or the type of person that decides that their children should attend these type of schools.

Now of course, as far as I am concerned, they are total whackos!

But of course, I consider myself somewhat sane.

I always loved The Name Oral Roberts U!


But, I am A Prevert!

It always amazed me that BYU was placed in the austeer Group.

Strange Yes, but realistic.

[Erik P Conard]

First, Tom, et al. is an abbreviated form of Latin, et alii, and it
means "and others." Et cetera, abbreviated "Etc." not "Ect."
means "and so forth." Et ux., like in deeds, is "et uxor," and
means "and wife." We still use a lot of Latin in English.
I know a lot about Bob Jones University, old Bob, Sr & Jr., so
what else? It is kinda like a joke and we have treated it lightly
in here. Some of us would consider it dangerous, but most of the
matriculates are harmless, just naive southern kids.
They are not actually snake handlers and the trouser worm is
there almost as much as at Kansas State Teachers College.
Oral Roberts...yes, that is a dandy. Like other famous folk, he is
said to have a hidden brother, Rectal.
Hang in there Tommy....LOL

[Blog Jones]

That's the issue addressed here:

http://www.blogjones.com/archives/000355.html

It's not all that bad, really.

[GeekyPenguin]

Erik correcting Tom on grammar.

My my my.

[aurora_borealis]

There is a small Christian College in my area and it has some similarities to this. Some differences are that there are no dorms, and students are encouraged to live with local families or in apartments.

They explain it here:
"This is why the College has no on-campus residence facilities, for such facilities tend to foster academic and youth subcultures segregated from the more balanced and mature local community.
New Saint Andrews rejects, on principle, college dormitory living. Dormitories dominate Christian and non-Christian student housing on virtually every college campus. But dorms, by their very nature, tend to breed immaturity, immorality, and irresponsibility. Despite claims to the contrary, no college can provide adequate supervision or accountability for dozens, sometimes hundreds of 18- to 21-year-olds living in the same space with other 20-somethings typically acting as the "residence advisors." This is consistent with the radically anti-Christian origin of modern college dormitories, dating from the early 20th century when the German Bauhaus movement swept Western architecture. Bauhaus architects quite deliberately applied their modernist-socialist vision to apartment complexes and college dormitories to create "living machines." In fact, Walter Gropius, the founder of the Bauhaus movement, invented the modern university dormitory at Bauhaus as a way of promoting communal living and reinforcing a revolutionary, socialist way of life. Sparing them the indignities of high ceilings and wide hallways and other trappings of the bourgeoisie, Gropius and the Bauhaus-inspired architects provided co-eds with low ceilings, narrow hallways, and the aesthetics of machinery. New Saint Andrews, by contrast, expects its students to live as faithful Christians in a way that recovers the beauty of genuine community."

Those of us that lived in crappy tiny dorm rooms can now blame it on Gropious and the Bauhaus!

The college cannot receive federal funding, so students have to save their money or get a job in the local community. If you don't have the money to pay, you won't be admitted.

"That means being faithful both in what we teach and in what we charge for tuition and fees. Our demanding program of studies gives students a rich Trinitarian worldview without chaining them to a devilish pile of debt when they graduate. A truly Christian education won't make students slaves to debt (Proverbs 22:7)."

College loans are devilish, tell that to the financial aid office!

In the code of conduct there is this:
"The College also warns students, for the protection of their souls and the peace of the College, to avoid false teaching and errant doctrine. The College expects students will neither embrace nor promote, formally or informally, historic or contemporary doctrinal errors, such as Arianism, Socinianism, Pelagianism, Skepticism, Feminism, Pantelism, the so-called Openness of God Theology, etc.,*1 among their fellow students. If students do come to embrace such errant doctrines personally, they promise by their signed pledge to inform the College administration immediately and honestly in a letter offering to withdraw from the College."

Feminism is a threat to YOUR SOUL!

And last but not least:
"Students should embrace and encourage the development of distinctively Christian music, art, literature, poetry, drama, and crafts. The College expects students to participate cautiously and critically in our predominantly pagan popular culture, and to avoid and to repudiate the culturally destructive (but often “socially acceptable”) glorification of sin found in contemporary films, music, video games, web sites, and so forth."

I also enjoy this part:
"The College expects students will cultivate holy and edifying social relationships with their fellow students and with the College faculty and staff, avoiding even the appearance of unruly behavior, inappropriate conduct, disrespect, rebellion, or sinful and unlawful activities commonly associated with ungodly college students (e.g., drunkenness, sexual sins, illegal drug use, etc.)."

How many of us are UNGODLY?

I remember reading in some of their stuff before that as a student, if you know of other students not following the code of conduct, or having issues in their faith, it is your duty to NARC on them and if you don't you're just as much at fault. I would never attend this school, as I actually want a degree that is worth something (most graduates end up working for the college or for the K-12 school they run as they are unqualified to do anything else).

[Erik P Conard]

I was not correcting Tom on his grammar. I was not an English
major and have been out of school 35 years...but I did write a
doctoral dissertation and will put my transcript against yours any
day. You are full of rancor, bird.

[RedRoseSAI]

Originally posted by Blog Jones
That's the issue addressed here:

http://www.blogjones.com/archives/000355.html

It's not all that bad, really.

Nice blog. Welcome to GreekChat!


Sidenote - Tom's comments make my head hurt. Occasionally, Eric's comments make my head hurt. Seeing Eric and Tom converse with each other is BEYOND me. If we were to throw in what-his-name-racist-with-flowery-prose, I think I'd self-distruct.