Conduct Becoming of A Sorority Girl

[blackngoldengrl]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

Like use the term GDI?

That set aside, I have huge issues with this statement. I was active at a small, very conservative campus, where I served as the president of College Dems and engaged in some pro-choice activism. I am sure that gave many people on campus a bad impression of my sorority. Are you implying I shouldn't have done it?

Depending on where you went to school, sure. And even then there are always people who are anti-choice or are not Democrats. If anything I think the pro-choice activism would spark more bad impressions than being a Democrat.

And what about being openly homosexual or bisexual within a fraternity/sorority? I'm sure that would cause controversy at some campuses. Some people think that shows a lack of morals.

[James]

Thats an interesting point. If your group has a policy of not discriminating by sexual preference, then it would be hard to expell a homosexual member that was sexually promiscious . . .

Originally Posted by blackngoldengrl

Depending on where you went to school, sure. And even then there are always people who are anti-choice or are not Democrats. If anything I think the pro-choice activism would spark more bad impressions than being a Democrat.

And what about being openly homosexual or bisexual within a fraternity/sorority? I'm sure that would cause controversy at some campuses. Some people think that shows a lack of morals.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Here's an example of what I think you were looking for, James.
I was an alumna advisor, and one of our collegians was in trouble for having sex with a fraternity member on the fraternity's pool table, and another incident in a phone booth. When pulled up before standards, she said that her sex life was none of our business. Usually true, I replied. But when everyone, including your advisors, knows of your sex life because it is being conducted in public, then it is our business. Everyone at this small school knew she was a Gamma Phi, and she was hurting the entire sisterhood by her blatant disregard for the sorority's reputation. She stormed upstairs, with me following close behind to get her badge.
The problem wasn't that she was having sex. The problem was she was doing it on the Sigma Nu's pool table. And in the phone booth. And God knows where else . . .

Am I the only one hoping that she had the class to replace the felt on the pool table?

[AOII Angel]

At my campus each chapter had very restrictive rules for sisters whether or not they were in letters. No dancing with a drink in your hand. No smoking in public. No visiting frat houses after 2am. Some may think this is ridiculous. These women are adults and should be allowed to do as they please. BUT, these women also chose to be members of organizations with standards.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Am I the only one hoping that she had the class to replace the felt on the pool table?

You know the guy like signed the thing or something. Or just marked off a tally. Guys have a way different mindset on that sort of thing...

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by James

Thats an interesting point. If your group has a policy of not discriminating by sexual preference, then it would be hard to expell a homosexual member that was sexually promiscious . . .

If you were trying to get rid of him/her for blatant and public promiscuity, then what would sexual orientation have to do with it? As long as the very public proof was undeniable, then what would be the problem? Certainly not their sexual orientation.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

If you were trying to get rid of him/her for blatant and public promiscuity, then what would sexual orientation have to do with it? As long as the very public proof was undeniable, then what would be the problem? Certainly not their sexual orientation.

My thought was that as long as both heterosexual and homosexual members were held to the same standards, then it shouldn't be a problem. If heterosexual members were blatantly promiscuous and didn't get disciplined, then a homosexual member who did might have cause to claim bias/a double standard. But if issues of promiscuity were dealt with consistently in the chapter, then I wouldn't anticipate any sort of problem.

(And let's hope that one individual chapter didn't have too many issues of blatant promiscuity to deal with in any given school year, otherwise that could certainly be the sign of a larger issue...)

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

Like use the term GDI?

That set aside, I have huge issues with this statement. I was active at a small, very conservative campus, where I served as the president of College Dems and engaged in some pro-choice activism. I am sure that gave many people on campus a bad impression of my sorority. Are you implying I shouldn't have done it?

GDI is not an offensive term.

As for the second part, no. You should be allowed to do whatever you felt was right. However, I would most certainly have refrained from wearing letters at any such event, dicussing things like that in letters when I KNEW it was going to turn into a heated argument, and not mentioning the sorority while engaging in such activities.

[sdsuchelle]

Would you recomend expelling them for posing for playboy? No, thats a personal decision and as long as they're not advertising their letters in the pictorial, I don't see the big deal. Then again I like Playboy.

Would you recomend expelling them for taking their clothes off in a Steven Spielbergh Movie? No. It's art.

Drug use? If it was a huge problem (i.e. not just ocassional marijuana use), then probably.

Alcohol use? Again, not unless it was a huge issue or they were doing it in letters on a regular basis.

Shacking with 3 or 4 partners or more a semester? No, that's none of the sorority's business.

[ChildoftheHorn]

OK, as far as the whole sex thing goes....
Someone once told me:
If someone slept with another sister's boyfriend, its not a reason to be brought up. That is their own business to take care of, not ours.
If a girl sleeps with the whole football team and now everyone thinks that (some group) are sluts, then that is our problem.
We have a lot of rules on drinking. First and foremost, no where near the house or any other place near the sorority quads - no matter the age. You will be thrown out or denied to any event and even the house if you are drunk or had been drinking. Even if you are of age, no pictures unless it is at a public place where everyone is 21+. You are responsible for any dates you have at any events. If your date is drunk or does drugs just prior or at the event, its almost like if you had done it.

There are some people on the war path about this stuff at my school and one sorority has already been suspended from social activities for a full year.
Mostly because of pics on facebook!

The plain and simple thing is that if you wouldn't do it in front of grandma or that grandma would be ashamed, then don't do it.

[AOIIalum]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

BUT, these women also chose to be members of organizations with standards.

Very well said. No one is forcing you to join a sorority, so by joining and remaining a member you are agreeing to abide by the standards (aka rules) of the organization.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

GDI is not an offensive term.

Yes, it most certainly is!

[macallan25]

Who cares?

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Who cares?

Apparently that would be fantASTic, Geeky Penguin, and myself. Perhaps some others as well.

We don't need your stamp of approval on what's discussed.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

Would you recomend expelling them for posing for playboy? No, thats a personal decision and as long as they're not advertising their letters in the pictorial, I don't see the big deal. Then again I like Playboy.

Would you recomend expelling them for taking their clothes off in a Steven Spielbergh Movie? No. It's art.

Drug use? If it was a huge problem (i.e. not just ocassional marijuana use), then probably.

Alcohol use? Again, not unless it was a huge issue or they were doing it in letters on a regular basis.

Shacking with 3 or 4 partners or more a semester? No, that's none of the sorority's business.

1. If she tied her letters to it, yes. If she didn't even say she was in a sorority...I don't know. I don't have a problem with Playboy but I know some sisters would.
2. Again...letters?
3. Letters? Dealing? Smoking/snorting in public (like at a party) or doing it in chapter housing...yes. But there's something to be said here...if NO ONE knows, then how can you get in trouble? In other words, keep it to yourself. Then it can't be a problem.
4. Letters? Drunk to the point of blackout consistently? Causing them to do things like the aforementioned sex on the pool table? First I personally would like to offer them help, like support in going to an AA meeting. If they wouldn't accept that and wouldn't change their behavior then yeah...see yeah.