Are Jewish sororities going to be pressured/forced by NPC to change their rituals?

[TriDeltaSallie]

We're already seeing that NPC groups with Christian symbolism, Bible references, etc. have started rewriting their rituals. My own group has dropped one of the most meaningful parts of the ritual. Just - poof - gone. It leaves a glaring hole in the ceremony.

Are the Jewish groups going to be expected to do the same thing? Pressured by NPC member groups to purge their rituals of religious overtones and symbolism?

I certainly hope they are not. I suspect they won't be.

So why the double standard?

[carnation]

I too would like to know this.

[Cheerio]

How is NPC pressuring/forcing each group to rewrite their ritual? Wouldn't each group choose on their own to do so/not do so? When did changing an NPC Ritual become THE THING to do? And how is it a double standard if NPC isn't mandating/pressuring?

[carnation]

A double standard would be if the Christian sororities are pressured to change their rituals but the Jewish ones aren't.

[ForrestGrump]

Originally Posted by carnation

A double standard would be if the Christian sororities are pressured to change their rituals but the Jewish ones aren't.

Hi, could you fill me in on which ones are specifically the "Christian" sororities, other than Theta Phi Alpha, which was historically founded as a Greek organization for Catholic women, but has been open to members of all faiths for decades? Thanks!

[carnation]

Many people feel them to be everyone except Phi Sigma Sigma, Delta Phi Epsilon, Alpha Epsilon Phi, and Sigma Delta Tau.

[33girl]

Honestly, I think AEPhi and SDT would leave NPC before doing that - and suffer not at all.

[ForrestGrump]

Ah, "many people." Yes, I see. I see quite clearly.

[glittergal1985]

Originally Posted by ForrestGrump

Hi, could you fill me in on which ones are specifically the "Christian" sororities, other than Theta Phi Alpha, which was historically founded as a Greek organization for Catholic women, but has been open to members of all faiths for decades? Thanks!

Theta Phi Alpha is not a Christian/ Catholic sorority. It’s not only open to all faiths, it does not have a faith affiliation.

[robinseggblue]

Originally Posted by glittergal1985

Theta Phi Alpha is not a Christian/ Catholic sorority. It’s not only open to all faiths, it does not have a faith affiliation.

Just because a sorority is open to all faiths does not mean that it wasn't established with a religious group in mind. The historically Jewish sororities are open to all faiths, but were founded to give Jewish students a chance to join Greek organizations at a time when Jewish students were not accepted in Greek organizations.

Likewise, "Theta Phi Alpha was originally founded to offer Catholic women the experience of sorority life, as other sororities did not include Catholic women."

The founders of any GLO will draw from their own experiences in the formation of their organization. I don't know much about TPA, but I would expect that their Catholicism played some role in certain aspects of the organization, even though TPA is obviously not a religious organization (no NPC sorority is).

For example, one thing I did notice is that TPA has St. Catherine of Sienna as a patron saint. No other GLO has a patron saint, and the idea of having a patron saint is something I would personally consider to be associated with Catholicism.

[ForrestGrump]

Originally Posted by glittergal1985

Theta Phi Alpha is not a Christian/ Catholic sorority. It’s not only open to all faiths, it does not have a faith affiliation.

Yes, I indicated that. It was founded as a Catholic sorority, but became open to all faiths (as well as races and creeds) in 1968. It is not a "Christian" sorority. Likewise, AEPhi and SDT were founded as Jewish sororities, but they have been open to women of all faiths for many years.

[AOIIalum]

Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie

We're already seeing that NPC groups with Christian symbolism, Bible references, etc. have started rewriting their rituals. My own group has dropped one of the most meaningful parts of the ritual. Just - poof - gone. It leaves a glaring hole in the ceremony.

I am curious, and completely understand if you cannot answer, but were the changes made to accommodate an virtual/zoom type ceremony? I can imagine some changes might be made, as an online ritual probably really can't be truly secure. I hope that this might be the case for Tri Delta and in-person rituals retain your beloved ceremonies.

[TriDeltaSallie]

There were accommodations made for the virtual situation and I completely understand that. No, there was clearly a significant part of the ritual that had been completely deleted and there was no physical reason for it to be done. Plenty of confidential content was still shared.

Originally Posted by AOIIalum

I am curious, and completely understand if you cannot answer, but were the changes made to accommodate an virtual/zoom type ceremony? I can imagine some changes might be made, as an online ritual probably really can't be truly secure. I hope that this might be the case for Tri Delta and in-person rituals retain your beloved ceremonies.

[Sen's Revenge]

Are we coming to GreekChat to discuss rituals now? Wow.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge

Are we coming to GreekChat to discuss rituals now? Wow.

I don't believe we are, indeed, discussing ritual. We are discussing changes to ritual without allowing membership to vote on such changes, and whether or not that's the right thing to do.