Why those letters? (public/private)

[naraht]

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[jazing]

Well, we are secret with out letter's meaning. But as for others, I know of two in the NIC that are open (there are so many NIC I am sure there are more)

NOTE: I'm getting these from the wikipedia page. I'm not divulging anyone's secrets.

Z.B.T. referred to the first letters in the Hebrew phrase "Zion Bemishpat Tipadeh", which translated means "Zion shall be redeemed with justice"
Theta Chi: Θηρόποσα Χείρ or An Assisting Hand

[33girl]

Alpha Sigma Alpha's open motto is Aspire, Seek, Attain. (It's right on our crest.)

That may or may not be our only motto.

[Titchou]

The meaning of the Greek words for which Delta Gamma stands are different and are secret.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by jazing

Well, we are secret with out letter's meaning. But as for others, I know of two in the NIC that are open (there are so many NIC I am sure there are more)

NOTE: I'm getting these from the wikipedia page. I'm not divulging anyone's secrets.

Z.B.T. referred to the first letters in the Hebrew phrase "Zion Bemishpat Tipadeh", which translated means "Zion shall be redeemed with justice"
Theta Chi: Θηρόποσα Χείρ or An Assisting Hand

But one should never assume that these are the only meanings of the letters. They may be or they may not be.

[aephi alum]

From the AEPhi web site:

"Α, Ε & Φ stand for faculty approval, student esteem and sorority fidelity."

Originally Posted by MysticCat

But one should never assume that these are the only meanings of the letters. They may be or they may not be.

Indeed...

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

From the AEPhi web site:

"Α, Ε & Φ stand for faculty approval, student esteem and sorority fidelity."

Huh. An AEPhi friend told me their motto years ago, and it was...not that. Now I'm wondering if she told me your secret motto, or if what she told me was a local thing.

[DEVODUDE]

Well, we are secret with out letter's meaning. But as for others, I know of two in the NIC that are open (there are so many NIC I am sure there are more)

NOTE: I'm getting these from the wikipedia page. I'm not divulging anyone's secrets.

Z.B.T. referred to the first letters in the Hebrew phrase "Zion Bemishpat Tipadeh", which translated means "Zion shall be redeemed with justice"

MysticCat; But one should never assume that these are the only meanings of the letters. They may be or they may not be.

MysticCat you are correct. While the Z.B.T society meaning of the letters were not a secret to the outside world, when it was changed to a Greek-Letter Fraternity the Founders of 1898 Columbia and the Founders of 1903 CCNY establish another meaning behind the letters which was added to the oath of brotherhood that all brothers take during the initiation process. That remains a secret.

ZBT:"Honoring the Past, Celebrating the Present & Impacting the Future."

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DEVODUDE

Well, we are secret with out letter's meaning. But as for others, I know of two in the NIC that are open (there are so many NIC I am sure there are more)

NOTE: I'm getting these from the wikipedia page. I'm not divulging anyone's secrets.

Z.B.T. referred to the first letters in the Hebrew phrase "Zion Bemishpat Tipadeh", which translated means "Zion shall be redeemed with justice"

MysticCat; But one should never assume that these are the only meanings of the letters. They may be or they may not be.

MysticCat you are correct. While the Z.B.T society meaning of the letters were not a secret to the outside world, when it was changed to a Greek-Letter Fraternity the Founders of 1898 Columbia and the Founders of 1903 CCNY establish another meaning behind the letters which was added to the oath of brotherhood that all brothers take during the initiation process. That remains a secret.

ZBT:"Honoring the Past, Celebrating the Present & Impacting the Future."

Devodude, Could you take a look at the ZBT wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Beta_Tau) and perhaps add some of the last half of the paragraph?

[honeychile]

I think ours is fairly obvious - Adelphean Society to Alpha Delta Phi to Alpha Delta Pi. But the meaning behind Adelphean will stay within our sisterhood!

[aephi alum]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Huh. An AEPhi friend told me their motto years ago, and it was...not that. Now I'm wondering if she told me your secret motto, or if what she told me was a local thing.

There are other meanings to the letters. One of them is secret and revealed only at initiation. Another is stated in the pledge manual and is something I probably could share ... I won't, because I'm not 100% sure if it's ok, but some masterful google fu could probably turn it up.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

There are other meanings to the letters. One of them is secret and revealed only at initiation. Another is stated in the pledge manual and is something I probably could share ... I won't, because I'm not 100% sure if it's ok, but some masterful google fu could probably turn it up.

Well, it's no secret on these boards that I'm a real cynic on ritual, but it's not something I've ever repeated anyway. I do, however, think it is kinda cool to compare/contrast the secrets of the different groups, as the ones I've known are all more alike than different.