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05-01-2007, 01:07 AM
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I hate to double post but...
This has been an interesting thread and one of the only ones on this topic that hasn't turned ugly. However, considering the number of times this issue is brought up, don't you think it might warrant a sticky either in the Greek Life section or in Sorority (and Fraternity) Recruitment?
It could be quite simple:
Dual Membership
Two NPCs - not allowed
An NPC and an NPHC - not allowed
A local and an NPC - allowed but you may have to drop your membership with the local, ask about it
A service sorority or fraternity and an NPC - allowed
etc., etc.
When someone asks again, they can just be directed to the sticky. End of discussion.
Just a thought.
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05-01-2007, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne
It could be quite simple:
Dual Membership
Two NPCs - not allowed
An NPC and an NPHC - not allowed
A local and an NPC - allowed but you may have to drop your membership with the local, ask about it
A service sorority or fraternity and an NPC - allowed
etc., etc.
When someone asks again, they can just be directed to the sticky. End of discussion.
Just a thought.
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Should be stickied and could be etched in stone...but for some reason I doubt it'll be known unless it's broadcasted next to the GreekChat banner on the top of the page.
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05-01-2007, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OTW
Should be stickied and could be etched in stone...but for some reason I doubt it'll be known unless it's broadcasted next to the GreekChat banner on the top of the page.
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lol So true!
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05-01-2007, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne
I joined Kappa Delta not XYZ and as far as I'm concerned XYZ has no business having my personal information. NPC would have to pass a resolution in order to be allowed to compile that kind of information. Oh, and that would only entail contacting a few hundred thousand women and asking for their permission and receiving it. It will never happen!
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I don't really think the logistics of it would even have to go that far. If you are a member of an NPC Sorority, that makes you a member of NPC. If such a database was created, NPC would have to create it, and they wouldn't necessarily need to ask for your permission to have it.
Women who are members of a sorority, that want to access the database, would simply register just like they do on their home sorority website...they could have a cross-check database to ensure that Suzie Q, was actually Suzie Q of XYZ Sorority before granting access.
I don't think it would take hardly anything to create, but again, it all boils down to numbers: How often does it happen? Enough to spend the money to create it?
I suspect that the reason we haven't seen one, is because it's rare.
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05-01-2007, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne
Even if they did keep the information, a student who was a member of an NPC at one school who knows they're transfering to another school without a chapter of their NPC or with a "weak" chapter that they don't want to affiliate with (and they plan on going through Recruitment again) simply won't sign a waiver to disclose their affiliation. Why would they?
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In my thinking, the failure of a transfer student to sign a waiver would basically say, "hey, everyone, look very carefully at this girl because she's hiding something." From there, groups could do some investigating or just not offer a bid if they can't find out what the deal is.
Almost any other transfer, I would think would sign a waiver saying that the Panhellenic at your old school has permission to reveal if you were a member of a sorority on that campus because they would know that the answer would be a legitimate "no."
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05-01-2007, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by puddintane
I don't really think the logistics of it would even have to go that far. If you are a member of an NPC Sorority, that makes you a member of NPC. If such a database was created, NPC would have to create it, and they wouldn't necessarily need to ask for your permission to have it.
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I'm actually really curious about this.
I just visited the NPC website and one of the things I noticed was that one of the publications they offer has chapter listings and it's specifically noted that names and addresses are not included. I don't know whether this is because it would constantly have to be updated (probably) or because they don't have the info or because they can't release the info.
I called KD and asked if they keep SSNs, anyone else want to step up to the plate and contact NPC to ask about this?
Conference Office Contact Information:
Mailing Address:
8777 Purdue Road, Suite 117
Indianapolis, IN 46268
Phone: (317) 872-3185
Facsimile: (317) 872-3192
EmaiI: npccentral@npcwomen.org
BTW: I was wrong about the number of women involved. It's actually 3.6 million.
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05-01-2007, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga
In my thinking, the failure of a transfer student to sign a waiver would basically say, "hey, everyone, look very carefully at this girl because she's hiding something." From there, groups could do some investigating or just not offer a bid if they can't find out what the deal is.
Almost any other transfer, I would think would sign a waiver saying that the Panhellenic at your old school has permission to reveal if you were a member of a sorority on that campus because they would know that the answer would be a legitimate "no."
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Good point!
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05-03-2007, 12:09 AM
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They can check on your membership.
I know of a sorority where they pledged a woman who transferred in from another school from another NPC sorority. It was policy to check every woman who was not a freshman, not just this woman. Right before her initiation, they ran her against some data base and found out that she had been a member of another NPC sorority.
It really sucked because this woman was a junior and had been elected pledge class president at her new sorority, lived in house, made friends with the other members and then got found out. No one really wanted to be her friend after that. Maybe a few. I heard of other stories on campuses where other sororities didn't check that much. My recommendation, is don't do it or do it at your own risk. There are ways of checking.
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