Non-African American's in D9.

UofHguy90 · #1 06-13-2012, 01:38 AM

I searched for threads related to this but couldn't really find any relating specifically. This is meant to be a open and intellectual debate about how people feel about this.

knight_shadow · #2 06-13-2012, 03:22 AM

Here's a thread from a few years back that touches on this:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=87018

DrPhil · #3 06-13-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=87018

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

It's likely that they just don't like you as a person.

Everything that can be said about this topic.

UofHguy90 · #4 06-13-2012, 03:43 AM

Thanks for the thread

UofHguy90 · #5 06-13-2012, 04:50 AM

Wow after going through quite a few pages of that article, you start to realize there are still a lot of idiots out there in the world lol. Instead of resurrecting a few year old post I would like to start a new one and get the opinions of people today.

I'll start off by saying that I am a white guy,I was raised in predominately african american neighborhoods and went to predominately african american schools. So naturally the extent of my greek knowledge comes from being around members of D9 organizations. I personally don't see what the color of someone's skin has to do with their character or how they would help an organization, but even as someone who has attend one of the most diverse universities in the U.S., I have seen this problem. I have been told I can't pledge and org. because when I showed interest or asked about said org. I " wasn't dressed the right way" also because "I'm white". IMO i think it is foolish for people to say things like this,when they represent and organization thats states that they are NOT biased towards these things.

What are you all's opinions on this topic????

irishpipes · #6 06-13-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UofHguy90

Wow after going through quite a few pages of that article, you start to realize there are still a lot of idiots out there in the world

Like people with a college education who spell Non African-Americans with an apostrophe s.

justgo_withit · #7 06-13-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes

Like people with a college education who spell Non African-Americans with an apostrophe s.

(mostly, just been wanting to use this. Stephen wtf are you wearing.)

UofHguy90 · #8 06-13-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes

Like people with a college education who spell Non African-Americans with an apostrophe s.

I also think people who troll over a misplaced apostrophe are idiots too.

thetalady · #9 06-13-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UofHguy90

Wow after going through quite a few pages of that article, you start to realize there are still a lot of idiots out there in the world lol. Instead of resurrecting a few year old post I would like to start a new one and get the opinions of people today.

I'll start off by saying that I am a white guy,I was raised in predominately african american neighborhoods and went to predominately african american schools. So naturally the extent of my greek knowledge comes from being around members of D9 organizations. I personally don't see what the color of someone's skin has to do with their character or how they would help an organization, but even as someone who has attend one of the most diverse universities in the U.S., I have seen this problem. I have been told I can't pledge and org. because when I showed interest or asked about said org. I " wasn't dressed the right way" also because "I'm white". IMO i think it is foolish for people to say things like this,when they represent and organization thats states that they are NOT biased towards these things.

What are you all's opinions on this topic????

My opinion is that it is none of my business who any private organization pledges or accepts for membership. If they don't want you as a brother, they don't want you. They do not have to explain or justify their membership decisions to anyone.

You don't know what you don't know; however, I doubt that you have some of the ancestral history shared by members of the D9 groups.

sigmadiva · #10 06-13-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thetalady

My opinion is that it is none of my business who any private organization pledges or accepts for membership. If they don't want you as a brother, they don't want you. They do not have to explain or justify their membership decisions to anyone.

You don't know what you don't know; however, I doubt that you have some of the ancestral history shared by members of the D9 groups.

This is not an issue.

Its more likely what Sen I said, they just don't like him. It can happen no matter the race / color / ancestral history of the person.

Iota Man · #11 06-13-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UofHguy90

Wow after going through quite a few pages of that article, you start to realize there are still a lot of idiots out there in the world lol. Instead of resurrecting a few year old post I would like to start a new one and get the opinions of people today.

I'll start off by saying that I am a white guy,I was raised in predominately african american neighborhoods and went to predominately african american schools. So naturally the extent of my greek knowledge comes from being around members of D9 organizations. I personally don't see what the color of someone's skin has to do with their character or how they would help an organization, but even as someone who has attend one of the most diverse universities in the U.S., I have seen this problem. I have been told I can't pledge and org. because when I showed interest or asked about said org. I " wasn't dressed the right way" also because "I'm white". IMO i think it is foolish for people to say things like this,when they represent and organization thats states that they are NOT biased towards these things.

What are you all's opinions on this topic????

I feel you, and it's fucked up to reject an aspirant because of color, but that's just life in general. But how do you know it's about your skin color? How do you know it's not just you? I went to Ohio State, and we had a few white bruhs, and some white dudes who wanted to pledge, we didn't fuck with. That didn't mean they were rejected because of their race, though. I think it largely depends on the school, too. HBCUs are going to be different and are more likely than not going to have a different perspective on their selection. So if you attend a HBCU, that could be the problem.

UofHguy90 · #12 06-13-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Iota Man

I feel you, and it's fucked up to reject an aspirant because of color, but that's just life in general. But how do you know it's about your skin color? How do you know it's not just you? I went to Ohio State, and we had a few white bruhs, and some white dudes who wanted to pledge, we didn't fuck with. That didn't mean they were rejected because of their race, though. I think it largely depends on the school, too. HBCUs are going to be different and are more likely than not going to have a different perspective on their selection. So if you attend a HBCU, that could be the problem.

I know it was about race because that is literally what the guy said. "I'm white" "You didn't dress right". It was a debate event with a panel of various people and from various organizations and this guy was actually on the panel. He ended up pulling me aside after I was being introduced to some of the brothers in the undergrad. chapter and told me these things. As for the HBCU thing Texas Southern is right down the road literally,and their chapters actually give me the time of day and I have met some great people from there,but I don't believe I could pledge there.

Iota Man · #13 06-13-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UofHguy90

I know it was about race because that is literally what the guy said. "I'm white" "You didn't dress right". It was a debate event with a panel of various people and from various organizations and this guy was actually on the panel. He ended up pulling me aside after I was being introduced to some of the brothers in the undergrad. chapter and told me these things. As for the HBCU thing Texas Southern is right down the road literally,and their chapters actually give me the time of day and I have met some great people from there,but I don't believe I could pledge there.

Dude was foul as hell for that. He's only one person, though. We had a voting process at my chapter. There were dudes who didn't like me at first, but they got outvoted. Why don't you think you can pledge at Texas Southern?

UofHguy90 · #14 06-13-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Iota Man

Dude was foul as hell for that. He's only one person, though. We had a voting process at my chapter. There were dudes who didn't like me at first, but they got outvoted. Why don't you think you can pledge at Texas Southern?

Yeah he was foul for it,and I would've stuck around to be voted in or out but after that rush event, all the guys from the undergrad. started to ignore me,so I took a hint,lol. From my understanding it has nothing to do with the schools but with "beef" between chapters of the same fraternities. The easiest way for me to do that is I would have o transfer to TSU for a semester,pledge, the transfer back to U of H

knight_shadow · #15 06-13-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Iota Man

Dude was foul as hell for that. He's only one person, though. We had a voting process at my chapter. There were dudes who didn't like me at first, but they got outvoted. Why don't you think you can pledge at Texas Southern?

Based on his username, it looks like he attends University of Houston. I believe they have separate chapters, not city-wide.