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Old 02-02-2005, 01:01 PM
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Teacher's salaries

So reading my local newspaper... my high school's teachers are threatening to go on strike. Currently, "the starting salary for a teacher with a master's degree at South Fayette is $39,250, approximately $3,500 above the county average, according to the school district.The average teacher's salary is $55,940 a year, with one-third of South Fayette teachers earning more than $75,000 a year."

I know this isn't normal across the country, but all of you complaining come teach in PA!

It's sad that the average teacher's salary from my HS is fairly likely to be more than i'll make starting out of law school.

and one third of them making over $75K???? it's no wonder the school taxes are so high!
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Old 02-02-2005, 01:02 PM
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Re: Teacher's salaries

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So reading my local newspaper... my high school's teachers are threatening to go on strike. Currently, "the starting salary for a teacher with a master's degree at South Fayette is $39,250, approximately $3,500 above the county average, according to the school district.The average teacher's salary is $55,940 a year, with one-third of South Fayette teachers earning more than $75,000 a year."

I know this isn't normal across the country, but all of you complaining come teach in PA!

It's sad that the average teacher's salary from my HS is fairly likely to be more than i'll make starting out of law school.

and one third of them making over $75K???? it's no wonder the school taxes are so high!
Are you working in the non-profit sector or something?

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Old 02-02-2005, 01:05 PM
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Re: Teacher's salaries

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It's sad that the average teacher's salary from my HS is fairly likely to be more than i'll make starting out of law school.
Why is that sad?
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Old 02-02-2005, 01:12 PM
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sad to me, at least. I've had more education, paid a lot of money, etc. Didn't mean to offend the teachers on here. Plus these were my HS teachers, I know the quality of their teaching. Not to mention the cost of living being relatively low around here.

And Rudey, i'm looking to possibly clerk for an appellate judge. But the starting salaries around here, excluding the big firms, aren't all that great right now. Supply and demand... there's a glut of law students graduating, and less jobs to be had, so they can pay us less.
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Old 02-02-2005, 06:45 PM
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Not only that but people are really ignorant when it comes to "big paying positions" like doctors or lawyers. They think that they make a ton of $$$$ but what about all those school loans and loans from living on that need to be paid back? Plus most lawyers I know have zero social or personal life fresh out of law school. They gotta work a ton of hours to earn the cash.
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Old 02-02-2005, 07:34 PM
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A friend of mine is a teacher. She makes around $40,000 a year. She has a bachelor's degree, a master's degree and is working on a degree in counseling (if she becomes a counselor, she'll get a raise, I think). She sometimes calls me when she is on her way to work in the morning--around 6:30--or when she is on her way home from work--around 5:00, if she doesn't have to stay later than that for faculty meetings or for practice (she helps coach the jv cheerleaders). She has an amazing amount of pressure from parents and from the school & school board administration and the biggest piles of paperwork I've ever seen. I couldn't have been a teacher, especially now that I have seen what she has to deal with every day. She really loves working with kids, though. I think that teachers, especially those who have gone to school for upper level degrees should make just as much as other people who go to school for the same length of time. She and I were discussing it a few weeks ago...this is her 8th year of college, and she plans to get her doctorate later on.
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Old 02-02-2005, 07:45 PM
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I never understood why teachers whine and complain about salaries and whatnot.

I'm making half of what they are making and I don't get THREE WHOLE MONTHS OFF! (Yes I realize it's not paid, but still... it's 3 months off...)
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Old 02-02-2005, 07:45 PM
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Most all teachers I know (my mom and close friends included) don't teach because it's a big-shot high paying job. They do it because they love the kids, and because they like the feeling they get when they see the "lightbulb" when a child is learning and/or understanding something.

I think if they are getting more pay in your area, more power to them!

Without teachers we wouldn't have lawyers or doctors or anything like that.
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Old 02-02-2005, 07:48 PM
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Social Workers SHOULD make a lot of cash too, but like teachers, and any other "helping" profession, we are traditionally not valued in our society . If we were, we would be making a decent living wage. We also have to go through A LOT of schooling (and not easy stuff either!!) but still, so many people even in our profession who have not gone through grad school call themselves Social Workers, and my personal favorite "therapists", but they really shouldn't for obvious reasons. I only hope that one day those of us in the helping professions can finally be paid what we are worth.
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Old 02-02-2005, 07:54 PM
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I never understood why teachers whine and complain about salaries and whatnot.

I'm making half of what they are making and I don't get THREE WHOLE MONTHS OFF! (Yes I realize it's not paid, but still... it's 3 months off...)
I think this is a BS remark. Most teachers I know don't really "get off" in the summertime. In the summertime, they often have to take courses. Also, I don't think teachers are paid enough for what they have to go through. Try dealing with horrible parents and horrible kids all day long, and being blamed for it all.... I don't think many people can do it. My mom is a retired teacher and she woke up at 4AM every day, was at school by 7AM at the latest and stayed up until 11 at night working on lesson planning. I think ANY time off teachers get is well-deserved and I don't think I even hit the tip of the iceburg of what they go through. I knew someone was going to make that comment too!!!!
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Old 02-02-2005, 07:54 PM
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Teachers get paid pretty well in Michigan too. They can start out of college making around $32K in most districts. The thing is, they have to keep going to school to make any more. A bachelor's +10 credits of grad school =raise. Bachelor's +20=raise, Master's=raise, Specialist=raise, PhD=raise. The ones who make over $60K a year are PhD's. I think that PhD's deserve that kind of money. Their hours are grueling while in session, but the time off is great, especially if you're a mom yourself. You can save $5000 a year in latch key/child care bills once your kids are in school. I regret not going into teaching. I do love working with kids (and did so as an Occupational Therapist), I enjoy an academic environment, and I would like to do more of my work at home (grading papers) rather than having to stay late at my office. My kids' teachers are usually in their cars and out of the parking lot before my kids get out of the school BUT, they have a huge pile of papers with them too. It would be nice to have the flexibility to finish my work at home and not stay in the office so late. It would be great to work in the same building where my kids are in school so when they have headaches, asthma attacks, etc, I could just take care of it without driving 25 miles each way.

I think we should pay teachers as much money as we can. They are performing one of the most important occupations in this country.

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Old 02-02-2005, 07:59 PM
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I think this is a BS remark. Most teachers I know don't really "get off" in the summertime. In the summertime, they often have to take courses. Also, I don't think teachers are paid enough for what they have to go through. Try dealing with horrible parents and horrible kids all day long, and being blamed for it all.... I don't think many people can do it. My mom is a retired teacher and she woke up at 4AM every day, was at school by 7AM at the latest and stayed up until 11 at night working on lesson planning. I think ANY time off teachers get is well-deserved and I don't think I even hit the tip of the iceburg of what they go through. I knew someone was going to make that comment too!!!!
The good teachers don't take the summers off...just like the good teachers are constantly going to classes to learn new techniques, going to workshops, etc.

However, there most definitely are teachers that take the summers off. Not every teacher put through the commitment that your mother did.
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Old 02-02-2005, 08:52 PM
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I know this isn't normal across the country, but all of you complaining come teach in PA!
Find teaching jobs up North that are open. It's soooo much harder to find open jobs (as teachers) in the North.

And for those that are saying teachers get 3 months off during the summer...let me give you some info (I'm a teacher if you haven't figured that out yet)...

1. Teachers don't get paid during the SUMMER!!! So we get 25k-35k (starting) a year - but we do not get paid during the summer. It's so hard to go 3 months with out getting a pay check. You have to tuck away money all year long (so you really are making less each month than your check says). You have to get a job in the summer making peanuts - while still doing work to get ready for your kids.

2. Teachers usually put in at least 13-14 hours a day. I get to school at 7:30 AM and leave at 5:30 each day. Then at home, I grade papers or lesson plan for at least 3 hours. I'm a new teacher, so this will decrease as I get materials built up, etc.

3. And finally, there is such thing as year round school - I teach 9 weeks on, 3 weeks off (no summer) - and during my 3 weeks off - one of those week is spent planning (like at school planning days) and then I have two weeks off...which during those weeks, since I'm still a new teacher, I'm lesson planning at home. I'm trying to transfer to a traditional school...this schedule is killing me.

We do not get paid enough for what we have to put up with all day.
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Old 02-02-2005, 09:01 PM
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It would take me all night long to comment on this....I just got home, have to grade papers, work on my National Boards, prepare for Hoops for Heart, pay my bills, and take my medicine so hopefully I can get over bronchitis. Hopefully I will get a good nights sleep...I have to get up at 5 so I can be at school by 7:30.
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Old 02-02-2005, 10:21 PM
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Also to add on what WhiteDaisy said, there is year-round school, and even for school districts that do not have a year-round calendar, many teachers teach during the summer (since there is a thing called "summer school") On days that kids don't have school, many times teachers have 'staff development days' or workshops, so they still have to go to work.

I definitely agree with AGDee's statement: "I think we should pay teachers as much money as we can. They are performing one of the most important occupations in this country."
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