A few questions - Page 2

Drolefille · #16 09-15-2011, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scooter131

Sorry, im new to this whole frat thing. An explanation would be nice.

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LaneSig · #17 09-15-2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by scooter131

If your father was in the frat you are rushing, does that give you a much better chance of getting in, or is that just a myth?

Generally, fraternity legacies are given much consideration. However, it is not a guarantee.

MysticCat · #18 09-15-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scooter131

Sorry, im new to this whole frat thing.

Then let me give you a word of advice before someone else does. FYI, some (though not all) fraternity members consider the term "frat" offensive, as it can carry something of an immature party animal connotation. Some even consider it very offensive. Unless you've heard fraternity members on your campus regularly using the term, you're safer sticking with "fraternity."

My other word of advice: Take a deep breath and relax.

scooter131 · #19 09-15-2011, 09:00 PM

A few brothers in the frat told me that being a legacy is an automatic bid. Geez, that was easier than I thought.

greekdee · #20 09-15-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter131

A few brothers in the frat told me that being a legacy is an automatic bid. Geez, that was easier than I thought.

Really?? Well, I guess different chapters at different schools have their procedures regarding legacies, but I sure know and know of people (guys and girls both) who have been cut by their legacy houses. (I addressed this some in another thread you asked a question in, but you may not have seen my response yet.) I have a friend feeling the sting right now. In August, her son was cut by the fraternity his dad and grandfather are members of. Come to think of it, I believe she told me an uncle was also a member.

My oldest son just accepted a bid from his legacy. Several men in our family, including his dad, are members, with two being past presidents of their chapters and one being a founding member of his. Even with the long standing family involvement with this fraternity, my son was advised by his dad not to approach recruitment all cozy and comfortable with his legacy standing -- he knows those bids don't always come.

Again though, different chapters at different schools may do it their own way. Personally, I wouldn't like it. What if the legacy is a rude, obnoxious, arrogant jerk with a history of causing trouble, barely makes grades and is disrespectful to women? Who would like having to extend an automatic bid to someone they know will not be a good representative of their organization?

Also, I second the advice you were given to use the word "fraternity" over "frat." Some members are cool with frat while others aren't and find it offensive. (My husband hates "frat" and always has. ) You can't go wrong with "fraternity", so play it safe and good luck with your recruitment!

MysticCat · #21 09-15-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter131

A few brothers in the frat told me that being a legacy is an automatic bid. Geez, that was easier than I thought.

If that's the case, I can honestly say that it's the first chapter I've ever heard of that automatically bids all legacies.

Good luck.

knight_shadow · #22 09-15-2011, 11:11 PM

Troll.

33girl · #23 09-16-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scooter131

A few brothers in the frat told me that being a legacy is an automatic bid. Geez, that was easier than I thought.

Unless the pledge in question turns out to be a real closet case...like Fred.

It may be an automatic bid, but guess what? Fraternities are not sororities. Some of them take great delight in "whittling down" the pledge class as the semester goes on. Just because you get a bid, doesn't mean you'll become a brother.

And for the love of all that's holy, stop saying frat. It makes you sound so trashy that not even Snooki would go out with you.

scooter131 · #24 09-16-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by greekdee

Really?? Well, I guess different chapters at different schools have their procedures regarding legacies, but I sure know and know of people (guys and girls both) who have been cut by their legacy houses. (I addressed this some in another thread you asked a question in, but you may not have seen my response yet.) I have a friend feeling the sting right now. In August, her son was cut by the fraternity his dad and grandfather are members of. Come to think of it, I believe she told me an uncle was also a member.

My oldest son just accepted a bid from his legacy. Several men in our family, including his dad, are members, with two being past presidents of their chapters and one being a founding member of his. Even with the long standing family involvement with this fraternity, my son was advised by his dad not to approach recruitment all cozy and comfortable with his legacy standing -- he knows those bids don't always come.

Again though, different chapters at different schools may do it their own way. Personally, I wouldn't like it. What if the legacy is a rude, obnoxious, arrogant jerk with a history of causing trouble, barely makes grades and is disrespectful to women? Who would like having to extend an automatic bid to someone they know will not be a good representative of their organization?

Also, I second the advice you were given to use the word "fraternity" over "frat." Some members are cool with frat while others aren't and find it offensive. (My husband hates "frat" and always has. ) You can't go wrong with "fraternity", so play it safe and good luck with your recruitment!

It doesnt mean I'm going to act cocky or anything, Ill still treat it the same way as if I wasn't a legacy.

knight_shadow · #25 09-16-2011, 11:56 AM

Troll.

scooter131 · #26 09-16-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Troll.

I don't see what was so wrong about my last post, I just said before what they told me, it might not be true, but I'd have a legitimate beef if they rejected me.

Psi U MC Vito · #27 09-16-2011, 04:08 PM

Actually, no you wouldn't.

MysticCat · #28 09-16-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Actually, no you wouldn't.

This. There is no such thing as a right to a bid.

Psi U MC Vito · #29 09-16-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

This. There is no such thing as a right to a bid.

And if for some reason they are required to bid you because you are a legacy, nothing prevents them from dropping you the first opportunity they can. My chapter has actually had people bid, then dropped a week later. It sucked for them, but it showed that nothing is guaranteed.

greekdee · #30 09-16-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter131

It doesnt mean I'm going to act cocky or anything, Ill still treat it the same way as if I wasn't a legacy.

Sorry, did not intend to imply that being a legacy would cause you to act cocky, and that certainly was not what my husband had in mind when he advised our son.

It's just that some people really have their hearts set on joining a legacy chapter, and think being a legacy makes a bid guaranteed. That simply is not always the case, and the shock and disappointment of not receiving a bid from one's legacy can be fierce. Also, someone wanting and expecting an automatic bid from their legacy may not check out other Greek orgs and end up without a chapter at all.

That is kind of what happened to my friend's son back in August. He wasn't invited to his legacy chapter's last event during formal recruitment. I don't know if he had invites to other houses, but he withdrew from recruitment and is presently a non-Greek. I think he's still having a great college experience, but I saw his Facebook status the night he got cut. He was pretty surprised and bummed at first.

Once again, best wishes in getting a bid.