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Old 08-21-2019, 06:18 PM
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I'm trying to understand how this works here.

Example: There are 10 chapters. 1000 women sign up for recruitment. There are 900 freshmen and 100 upperclassmen. The rounds go on, PNMs are cut, and remaining are 800 freshmen and 80 upperclassmen.

A combined quota would be 88 (800 freshman plus 80 upperclassmen divided by 10 chapters). But separate quotas would be 80 for the freshmen and 8 for the upperclassmen... which is still the same number.

So how is having an upperclassmen quota a benefit? Does it require a certain number of upperclassmen PNMs to be carried through each round?
You are overlooking one important thing...the upperclassmen in a no UC quota situation will be dropped sooner because the groups want freshmen first as they will be in the chapter longer. So the UC women end up with fewer options and tend to drop out. That's why the separation came about -to give the UC PNMs a better -and fairer - chance.
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You are overlooking one important thing...the upperclassmen in a no UC quota situation will be dropped sooner because the groups want freshmen first as they will be in the chapter longer. So the UC women end up with fewer options and tend to drop out. That's why the separation came about -to give the UC PNMs a better -and fairer - chance.
I guess I'm not understanding what you're saying here. I can't see why it's more fair for them.

If my math is correct, each chapter is gaining the same number of members, regardless of whether or not there is an upperclassmen quota, correct? And there's no obligation for the chapters to carry upperclassmen through to the next round, correct?

So how does having that quota benefit the upperclassmen, and for what reason are chapters carrying more upperclassmen forward with the separate quota?

If each chapter is gaining the same number of members either way, and they would prefer to have more freshmen, what is "forcing" them to take non-freshmen?
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I guess I'm not understanding what you're saying here. I can't see why it's more fair for them.

If my math is correct, each chapter is gaining the same number of members, regardless of whether or not there is an upperclassmen quota, correct? And there's no obligation for the chapters to carry upperclassmen through to the next round, correct?

So how does having that quota benefit the upperclassmen, and for what reason are chapters carrying more upperclassmen forward with the separate quota?

If each chapter is gaining the same number of members either way, and they would prefer to have more freshmen, what is "forcing" them to take non-freshmen?
If I understand correctly just from what Titchou has said, the primary and secondary quotas aren't really combined to make one total quota. Like, if Primary quota is 80 and Secondary quota is 8, then the chapters have 80 spots for freshmen regardless of how many upperclasswomen they choose to invite back. Sure, adding them together may equal 88, but that includes the 8 spots for upperclasswomen and those don't automatically become freshmen availability for chapters who have dropped all the upperclasswomen. It gives the chapters a little leeway to include those women if they really want them. Nobody is forced to take them, but it does give them more of an equal playing field because they're not having to compete as directly for the spots the freshmen will fill.

I hope I got that right, Titchou.
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It gives the women who are not freshmen a chance to be considered without losing a freshman spot. In the bad ol' days, often anyone other than freshmen would be cut because pledging them would mean losing possible years of membership. Now, with a separate quota, they can be considered on their own merits, and it opens up spots specifically for them. Chapters aren't forced to take anyone, but now they can without jeopardizing losing a freshman.
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I guess I'm not understanding what you're saying here. I can't see why it's more fair for them.

If my math is correct, each chapter is gaining the same number of members, regardless of whether or not there is an upperclassmen quota, correct? And there's no obligation for the chapters to carry upperclassmen through to the next round, correct?

So how does having that quota benefit the upperclassmen, and for what reason are chapters carrying more upperclassmen forward with the separate quota?

If each chapter is gaining the same number of members either way, and they would prefer to have more freshmen, what is "forcing" them to take non-freshmen?
UC quota is voluntary for the chapters. So they may take one or all 8. And you are still looking at the freshman quota as an overall quota....in a way. The chapters will tend to release UC women early and so those women drop out. The odds that you would have 100 women left at the end of recruitment is less likely with no UC quota and more likely with it. UC quota, in Cajun French terms,is lagniappe- a little something extra that doesn't cost you anything...
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Any word on the size of the pledge classes for each chapter? I'm not finding much at all.
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106 Primary quota,5 UC. DG took 120
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