African American women in CPC, opinions, please?

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by 33girl

That's exactly why I posted what I did. Then again, if everyone had deferred rush it would help remedy this a lot, but that's another story.

And by research I'm not just talking about textbook research. I mean talk to members, observe activities, attend events, etc. But you're right, NPC rush would have to be deferred for this I guess.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

I hate when people make assumptions about black NPC members from both sides. That is all.

-Black NPC member.

[seeingstars]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

I hate when people make assumptions about black NPC members from both sides. That is all.

-Black NPC member.

I couldn't decide what I wanted to reply to this thread with, but the above sums up my thoughts quite well. I'm just thankful this subject matter is something I've never had to question in regards to myself, my chapter, or the pnms we get to meet at recruitment.

So, ditto.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by seeingstars

I couldn't decide what I wanted to reply to this thread with, but the above sums up my thoughts quite well. I'm just thankful this subject matter is something I've never had to question in regards to myself, my chapter, or the pnms we get to meet at recruitment.

So, ditto.

I know! I kept reading this thread and getting more frustrated.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

I hate when people make assumptions about black NPC members from both sides. That is all.

-Black NPC member.

What assumptions have been made? Just curious.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Blacks going through recruitment is as rare as whites going through NPHC membership intake, for a number of reasons. All of our organizations will remain predominantly (insert race and ethnicity) because our society will never stop being racially segregated. No need to grapple with this issue too much. Cheers.

Just to clarify, in the west it is very common for african american, asian, hispanic and even international students to go through NPC recruitment. This really seems to be an issue in the south.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by USM2012

I will quit the chapter if we love a girl but cut her only because of her race.

I would too.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

What assumptions have been made? Just curious.

It was a comment made earlier in the thread that supported one of my assumptions.

But I can be a jerk sometimes so it should have no bearing on the topic at hand.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

I hate when people make assumptions about black NPC members from both sides. That is all.

-Black NPC member.

Where are the assumptions? I'm a black NPC member and, while I used to get all heated up about these posts a decade ago, it's nothing I haven't seen in my own life.

I've learned that, while I came from an amazing chapter, I know that there are chapters where my sisters would NOT welcome me with open arms. That doesn't upset me.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Just to clarify, in the west it is very common for african american, asian, hispanic and even international students to go through NPC recruitment. This really seems to be an issue in the south.

It happens more than in the south but I wouldn't classify it as "very common."

It's an issue everywhere but in varying doses. There are also Black, Asian, Hispanic, and International student NPCers in the south but that doesn't negate the issue that is being highlighted in this thread.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Just to clarify, in the west it is very common for african american, asian, hispanic and even international students to go through NPC recruitment. This really seems to be an issue in the south.

In the Midwest too. At the schools I've seen it's about in proportion to the student body. I obviously don't have numbers, and that could vary from school to school, but it seems consistent.

Also the one thing I feel comfortable about saying with regards to MS is that I never once heard one of my sisters try to reject a PNM based on her race either blatantly or through "code" words. I don't know what went through their heads, but at the least I can claim that.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Where are the assumptions? I'm a black NPC member and, while I used to get all heated up about these posts a decade ago, it's nothing I haven't seen in my own life.

I've learned that, while I came from an amazing chapter, I know that there are chapters where my sisters would NOT welcome me with open arms. That doesn't upset me.

This would bother me.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

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This would bother me.

Well, we join the organization through a chapter and not the other way around. Chapters are a reflection of the people in them. Perhaps she doesn't feel that those chapters (moreso, the women in them) are a reflection of the organization.

[AOII Angel]

I think it would upset me, too, but in all reality, there are chapters of my sorority that wouldn't have chosen me for a plethora of reasons. I am under no illusions that I would have been able to pledge AOII at every school in the US or Canada. Each chapter is different. I am ashamed, however, of sisters who refuse to accept sisters for such discriminatory reasons.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Well, we join the organization through a chapter and not the other way around. Chapters are a reflection of the people in them. Perhaps she doesn't feel that those chapters (moreso, the women in them) are a reflection of the organization.

Agreed.