Transferring/lying about sororities?

[Shellfish]

Another unbelievable aspect of this tale is the forged paperwork. How would someone get hold of another organization's forms?

[Cheerio]

There are many obvious ways to spot a shady KD

[lulubre]

lol. ^ very interesting responses. anyone else? I was pretty stunned she didn't get caught. I wondered if the girls in KD really liked her and didn't want to rat her out so they just let her play along?

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by lulubre

lol. ^ very interesting responses. anyone else? I was pretty stunned she didn't get caught. I wondered if the girls in KD really liked her and didn't want to rat her out so they just let her play along?

Are you Greek?

[navane]

Originally Posted by lulubre

lol. ^ very interesting responses. anyone else? I was pretty stunned she didn't get caught. I wondered if the girls in KD really liked her and didn't want to rat her out so they just let her play along?

LOL....no.

[Sister Havana]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

There are many obvious ways to spot a shady KD

Not that anyone here remembers any KD perps...

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by als463

This same exact question happens to be posted on that site in the Cornell section. That's odd considering Longhorn Mom's one daughter with the "successful" rush just happens to be at Cornell.

Don't worry, we also know where else her questions lie.

[jolene]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Don't worry, we also know where else her questions lie.

Now I'm curious.

[carnation]

Lulubre, so you're interested in AI with Alpha Gam?

[stufield]

It is one thing to have been an initiated member of a sorority or fraternity at one school, transfer to a second school, and then affiliate with a chapter of another sorority or fraternity at the second school, purporting to have been initiated into that other sorority or fraternity at either the first school or a third school. The members of the sorority or fraternity at the second school could take the individual at her or his word, especially if she or he had some supporting documentation and seemed knowledgeable about the [second] sorority or fraternity. But I would think that the members of the sorority or fraternity at the second school would take the precaution of testing the individual for secret motto, grip, and other secret material that enables members of a sorority or fraternity to identify other members and expose imitators/impostors/fraudsters ... every sorority or fraternity has such signs and other additional secret identifying material. If the new sorority or fraternity was suspicious or duly diligent, it would check with the chapter at which the individual purported to have been initiated and/or with its (inter)national HQ. So I suppose an individual could get away with this sort of deception, but the second chapter would have to be very careless/inattentive to enable it to succeed.

It is, however, quite another matter for an individual to have been an initiated member of a sorority or fraternity at one school, transfer to a second school, and then join a second sorority or fraternity from the ground up ... by rushing, being bid, accepting the bid, pledging, and subsequently being initiated, all without ever mentioning membership in another fraternity at a previous school. There is no way that the members of the second sorority or fraternity could know that the individual had already been initiated into another fraternity at a different school if she or he simply kept her or his mouth shut about it. There is no central registry of all initiates of all sororities or fraternities against which sorority or fraternity HQs check or cross-reference the pledge or the initiate lists submitted to them by their respective chapters. I personally know two different people who have done this. In one instance, the sorority or fraternity into which the individual had been initiated did not exist at the school to which the individual transferred, and the individual was not interested in attempting to start a colony/chapter of that sorority or fraternity at the second school. So she or he simply rushed at the new school, and joined a different group. In the other instance, the individual was dissatisfied with the sorority or fraternity that she or he had been initiated into, and, upon transferring, likewise had no interest in attempting to bring that sorority or fraternity to the second school. So she or he likewise simply entered into the greek system at that school at the base level by rushing, and subsequently pledging and being initiated into a another sorority or fraternity. It was no problem in either instance; the individuals simply had to pay two sets of pledge and initiation fees, and be completely mum about their respective initial memberships. I would not be surprised if this has happened numerous times.

[Sciencewoman]

Originally Posted by stufield

It was no problem in either instance; the individuals simply had to pay two sets of pledge and initiation fees, and be completely mum about their respective initial memberships.

But they told you, so they must not have been able maintain their discretion. Was any action ever taken against them by either of the groups each one joined? I feel that at some point, this could still catch up with someone even if they've gotten away with it during their college years, especially with social media and alumni/ae finding long-lost sisters and brothers via Facebook.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by stufield

...... It was no problem in either instance; the individuals simply had to pay two sets of pledge and initiation fees, and be completely mum about their respective initial memberships. I would not be surprised if this has happened numerous times.

I know nothing about fraternities, but I sincerely doubt this has happened too many times among sororities. It would take super-human will for nothing to slip out about the previous membership. The member would have to keep quiet. The parents paying the bill would have to keep quiet. Any friends or siblings visiting her would have to be in on it.
And now, it's so easy to find pictures or other evidence online.
Sure, I'm sure it has happened.
But not that often.

[stufield]

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman

But they told you, so they must not have been able maintain their discretion. Was any action ever taken against them by either of the groups each one joined? I feel that at some point, this could still catch up with someone even if they've gotten away with it during their college years, especially with social media and alumni/ae finding long-lost sisters and brothers via Facebook.

They both told me, in separate conversations years and miles apart, several years after they graduated. And I have seen their names on alum lists, and both get correspondence from both their respective organizations.

[Titchou]

I'm not saying it couldn't happen but I'm wondering why one of the two groups hasn't expelled them if they now know about it. Also, as far back as the 70's, my group has had a rule that chapter at campus B has to get written approval from chapter at campus A to pledge a woman. So if I went to Oregon State and was a member of AAA and then moved to Texas Tech, my org at TTU would check with our chapter at OSU to see if I had ever been thru recruitment and what the outcome had been. Then my chapter at TTU would tell PH that I already belonged to AAA and they would stop me from participating in recruitment. It would have been hard to do what you say.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by stufield

They both told me, in separate conversations years and miles apart, several years after they graduated. And I have seen their names on alum lists, and both get correspondence from both their respective organizations.

Out if curiosity, what time frame was this?

Also, were the sororities similar in size and scope? Don't name names, but I'm just trying to get a handle on this. I know that unfortunately there were/are campuses out there not well versed Panhellenically, to say the least.