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Old 01-24-2012, 05:02 PM
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Were custom made badges allowed in '38? If so, this badge may be one of them.
I would be surprised if that's the explanation. The arrangement of the jewels dates back to 1901 (three years after founding). The badge looked just like the current badge except no Greek letters -- the S filled the central triangle. From 1902-1909, some chapters advocated alternatives, including a point-down triangle and adding the Greek letters. The current design (with Greek letters) was adopted in 1910, and so far as I know, the only alternative that has ever been permitted since then was a scroll-edged version with no jewels. (That was in the mid-to-late 1900s; we don't even allow that anymore.) So all that is to say that I seriously doubt any customization was allowed in 1938.

And as far as I know, we've used an official jeweler pretty much all along, but I could be wrong about that.

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I just don't see Phi Mu Delta using the combination of pearls and garnets exactly like PMA does so I doubt it's a PMD badge. Really weird. I'd buy it if I were you, but I know how much they charge for their badges at that stupid site.
From what I've read, my impression is that the jewels on the ΦΜΔ badge are non-negotiable, just as they are for us.

And yes on the price. It just may not be in the budget right now.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:03 PM
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Maybe this is kind of a far out idea but it kind of looks to me like a Phi Mu Delta badge converted into a Phi Mu Alpha one. Like they took out the middle stone and redid the enamel (it kind of looks to me, when you look close, that there is a small indent in the middle of the Sinfonia 'S' like where a jewel would be). No idea why they'd do all that and leave the delta intact, unless they tried to change it and it didn't go so well (i.e. they meant to add the little legs to make the delta into an 'A' and it failed).

Other idea was that maybe it was a brother of Phi Mu Alpha and Phi Mu Delta and he wanted to combine the two badges to represent both of his organizations. No idea if that would even be okay with either organization, but it does make for quite a unique piece.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:33 PM
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Maybe this is kind of a far out idea but it kind of looks to me like a Phi Mu Delta badge converted into a Phi Mu Alpha one. Like they took out the middle stone and redid the enamel (it kind of looks to me, when you look close, that there is a small indent in the middle of the Sinfonia 'S' like where a jewel would be). No idea why they'd do all that and leave the delta intact, unless they tried to change it and it didn't go so well (i.e. they meant to add the little legs to make the delta into an 'A' and it failed).

Other idea was that maybe it was a brother of Phi Mu Alpha and Phi Mu Delta and he wanted to combine the two badges to represent both of his organizations. No idea if that would even be okay with either organization, but it does make for quite a unique piece.
That's an interesting thought, but the other letters look so different between the two badges. I like the idea that the member would be a member of both and include the delta on his PMA badge to recognize his PMD membership...BUT then again, I'm not a member of PMA so I can't be offended if that could.
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:31 PM
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Maybe this is kind of a far out idea but it kind of looks to me like a Phi Mu Delta badge converted into a Phi Mu Alpha one. Like they took out the middle stone and redid the enamel (it kind of looks to me, when you look close, that there is a small indent in the middle of the Sinfonia 'S' like where a jewel would be). No idea why they'd do all that and leave the delta intact, unless they tried to change it and it didn't go so well (i.e. they meant to add the little legs to make the delta into an 'A' and it failed).
interesting thought, but I kind of doubt it. I think there are some size differences, and you'd have to redo the whole outer triangle as well. Our badge has 18 stones, while the Phi Mu Delta badge has 15, so you can't just replace some pearls with garnets. And I agree with AOII Angel -- the Phi and the Mu Look different as well. Ours have no serifs.

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Other idea was that maybe it was a brother of Phi Mu Alpha and Phi Mu Delta and he wanted to combine the two badges to represent both of his organizations. No idea if that would even be okay with either organization, but it does make for quite a unique piece.
That would not be okay with us. At all. As in

But again, it doesn't seem likely. Based on the inscription, this belonged to someone at the University of Washington. Phi Mu Delta has never had a chapter there -- they've only had a few western chapters period.

All that said, it's about as reasonable as any explanation I've been able to come up with.
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:22 PM
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interesting thought, but I kind of doubt it. I think there are some size differences, and you'd have to redo the whole outer triangle as well. Our badge has 18 stones, while the Phi Mu Delta badge has 15, so you can't just replace some pearls with garnets. And I agree with AOII Angel -- the Phi and the Mu Look different as well. Ours have no serifs.

That would not be okay with us. At all. As in

But again, it doesn't seem likely. Based on the inscription, this belonged to someone at the University of Washington. Phi Mu Delta has never had a chapter there -- they've only had a few western chapters period.

All that said, it's about as reasonable as any explanation I've been able to come up with.
I figured as much. LOL
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:24 AM
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All that said, it's about as reasonable as any explanation I've been able to come up with.
Maybe let Lyrecrest know?
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Maybe let Lyrecrest know?
Yes, I probably should.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:27 PM
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It being the depression/early war time the jeweller used an existing PMD badge and refashioned it PMA?
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Well, I should remember that when in doubt, Occam's Razor is my friend. It seems the badge did indeed belong to a Sigma chapter (University of Washington) initiate from the 30s. It is a Sinfonian badge. Apparently the enamel was damaged at some point and the jeweler who repaired it did so incorrectly, putting a Delta on it instead of an Alpha. That also explains the difference in the gold line. As a result a seller on That Site now has a "mystery badge" to offer.

So that's it. "Mystery badge" solved.
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Gamma Phi Beta posted this pic on our Facebook page. It's a badge of an International Councilwoman - so pretty! International President's badge is like this, only instead of pearls her badge is encrusted in diamonds!

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Old 01-31-2012, 06:13 PM
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Gamma Phi Beta posted this pic on our Facebook page. It's a badge of an International Councilwoman - so pretty! International President's badge is like this, only instead of pearls her badge is encrusted in diamonds!

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Old 01-31-2012, 06:48 PM
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Gamma Phi Beta posted this pic on our Facebook page. It's a badge of an International Councilwoman - so pretty! International President's badge is like this, only instead of pearls her badge is encrusted in diamonds!

I have picture of one of these that I took at our convention since we are honored to have one of your sisters and former council members as our AOII Foundation Director. It is amazing in person!
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Theta Phi Alpha Badge Dump

Some of these you've seen before, some should be new.


Standard badge


New version of the standard badge to commemorate the centennial


Chapter president's badge


My artistic rendering of the Grand Council badge--worn with a guard corresponding to the office held


My artistic rendering of the National President's badge. Please don't be jealous of my MS Paint skills.


The Senior Service Award. Each year, the advisory board of each chapter is allowed to nominate up to two graduating seniors to receive this award. Only one woman per chapter may win each year. It's highly competitive. We just reached our 1,000 Senior Service Award in 2011.



The Guard of Honor is the highest award Theta Phi Alpha can bestow upon a member. They are awarded during Conventions (every other year) and are numbered on the back. Coming into the 49th Convention, we have awarded 77 Guards of Honor.
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Some of these you've seen before, some should be new.


Standard badge


New version of the standard badge to commemorate the centennial


Chapter president's badge


My artistic rendering of the Grand Council badge--worn with a guard corresponding to the office held


My artistic rendering of the National President's badge. Please don't be jealous of my MS Paint skills.


The Senior Service Award. Each year, the advisory board of each chapter is allowed to nominate up to two graduating seniors to receive this award. Only one woman per chapter may win each year. It's highly competitive. We just reached our 1,000 Senior Service Award in 2011.



The Guard of Honor is the highest award Theta Phi Alpha can bestow upon a member. They are awarded during Conventions (every other year) and are numbered on the back. Coming into the 49th Convention, we have awarded 77 Guards of Honor.
Thank you SOOOOO much for posting all of this!! I have always wondered what all of these badges looked like. I also enjoy the dangles. I bet they are quite coveted.
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