NPHC BGLO's how do you feel about non NPHC BGLO's

[naraht]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

I saw the Alpha Epsilon Nu chapter doing a step during their 2007 Sectionals Roll Call. If it's still on YouTube, I'll give you the link.

btw, I saw another APO co-ed chapter step (it was uploaded on YouTube within the last few weeks).

University of San Francisco??? - a thousand miles from the nearest HBCU!

Edited, actually Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science is in Los Angeles, but they don't have any Alpha Phi Omega or HBCUs.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I taught a strolling workshop at the 2006 convention with about 30 attendees. Most of the participants were not from HBCUs, if that means anything.

Actually, I was thinking of the 1994 convention in Dallas/Fort Worth. Prairie View A&M's chapter ran that...

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by naraht

Actually, I was thinking of the 1994 convention in Dallas/Fort Worth. Prairie View A&M's chapter ran that...

I know you were, I'm just adding that there have been additional events since that.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I know you were, I'm just adding that there have been additional events since that.

Cool. However, if this ever spreads far enough that the chapter I initiated at (Kappa @ the incredibly geeky Carnegie-Mellon University) begins stepping, someone is going to die.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by naraht

Agreed, but Alpha Phi Omega, Gamma Sigma Sigma, Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigma generally do fall into the same grouping at HBCUs.

That doesn't a "BGLO" make.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That doesn't a "BGLO" make.

True, but sometimes the only way to tell with those 4 groups at HBCUs is to look at the pictures in the Pledge manual. (That is definitely a way in which Alpha Phi Omega nationally does *not* line up with the NPHCs. Pledging<>Hazing!)

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by naraht

University of San Francisco??? - a thousand miles from the nearest HBCU!

Edited, actually Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science is in Los Angeles, but they don't have any Alpha Phi Omega or HBCUs.

Found the clip. Here it is:

Alpha Phi Omega AEN Chapter roll call step

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by naraht

True, but sometimes the only way to tell with those 4 groups at HBCUs is to look at the pictures in the Pledge manual. (That is definitely a way in which Alpha Phi Omega nationally does *not* line up with the NPHCs. Pledging<>Hazing!)

They still aren't BGLOs.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

*at bolded* Translation: SIX VOTES!!!

Six votes or 600 votes--it passed.

[KAPital PHINUst]

I found another mainstream APO step show from the 2007 Stomp Fest: It is truly

(clips are separated in three segments)

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by naraht

1972: Title IX. All non-social Greek Letter Organizations required to go co-ed. (Note, this is why legally, the NPHC greeks no matter how much service they do are legally counted as social fraternities)

Clarification 501(c)(7) has always been our IRS designations--membership social clubs.

While all of the NPHC orgs now claim service as their cornerstone, most of them were not founded for the express purpose of service. But because of the nature of the groups--selective memberships, even those that were, were still given (c)(7) designations.

So it really had nothing to do with Title IX. We were already protected and no one was seeking to change their designation anyway.

[ShamikaT]

When I logged on, I saw this:

"Hello, ShamikaT. it appears that you have not posted on GreekChat in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?"

Daaaaaaamn, GC be ALL up in mine!

Ok, lemme contribute some....

First of all, GC has been around since 2000??? What the hell?

DO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!?

That means:

*It was the same year Nelly started rapping.

*Peeps were scared of the YtooK thing

*Greekchatters who are in their 30s were in their 20s! Those who are in their 20s were in their 10s!

*I was a sophomore in high school, I couldn't even drive! And I just finished developing my titties.

*I was a virgin, the first time around!

*GC look like it was purchased at the dolla store. It was straight hood! You couldn't send/recieve PMs. You couldn't view who was online. There were little folders beside each thread, and if it recieved 15+ posts, that bitch caught on fire! It was the local access channel of the internets.

Yall still listening???

*Michael Jackson was still black!

*Laffy Taffy was known as a chewy candy

*Kazo was known as a site where you download music

*Tom Earp wasn't gray.

*GC went down more than cheerfulgreek goes down on PrettyBoy.

*Off course, I wouldn't know annnything about some of this! I heard the GC things by rumor.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

They still aren't BGLOs.

Shrug, what makes a BGLO then? The school they were founded at? (Like Indiana University)? Whether they have a majority of their chapters at HBCUs? (No idea if this is true of all of the NPHC). The race of their founders?

[naraht]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Clarification 501(c)(7) has always been our IRS designations--membership social clubs.

While all of the NPHC orgs now claim service as their cornerstone, most of them were not founded for the express purpose of service. But because of the nature of the groups--selective memberships, even those that were, were still given (c)(7) designations.

So it really had nothing to do with Title IX. We were already protected and no one was seeking to change their designation anyway.

Agreed, Title IX and IRS designations have nothing to do with each other, but it is the Title IX regulation that forces groups to either be Social Fraternities/Sororities or not Social Fraternities/Sororities. Only Social Fraternities and Sororities have the exemption in Section (A)(6)(a). Not professional F/S, not Honor F/S and not Service F/S. If Delta Sigma Theta were to legally claim to be a Service Sorority rather than a Social Sorority, they would be placing themselves in the legal situation of having to admit men to the collegiate chapters inside the United States. The text of Title IX is at http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/cor/coord/titleixstat.htm . You may want to work through the text of the "Iron Arrow" case http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...l=464&invol=67

As for 501c3 vs 501c7, Alpha Phi Omega is 501c3, but that largely has to do with the fact that when Alpha Phi Omega applied for that status, it was more strongly tied to the Boy Scouts of America. I've seen other service groups that are 501c7.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

I found another mainstream APO step show from the 2007 Stomp Fest: It is truly

This is Baylor. Cool.