NPHC BGLO's how do you feel about non NPHC BGLO's

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Why will this question be asked? As I said what Delta is, is a sisterhood. What she does is public service. And we believe that the quality of our service is only as strong as our sisterhood. So it is first priority.

(at bolded) So what are the core elements that separates Delta from Alpha Phi Omega if both are about brother/sisterhood and [public] service?

[naraht]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Reread her last post and then reread my response. Delta was not forced to make any declaration because of Title IX. That is my point.

If you are refering to me (Naraht/Randy), I'm a guy. (And I apologized for not getting her point. I think on that we are now in agreement, DST doesn't have to worry about Title IX since they are a Social Sorority.)

[naraht]

Originally Posted by ErinKathleenNJ

i'm pretty sure that jersey city university steps- or at least they did at one of the conferences a few years ago

Cool, I wish it had ended up on YouTube!

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by naraht

If you are refering to me (Naraht/Randy), I'm a guy. (And I apologized for not getting her point. I think on that we are now in agreement, DST doesn't have to worry about Title IX since they are a Social Sorority.)

My apologies, for some reason I thought you were female. Mea culpa.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Tell him I SAID APhiA is not a service fraternity! You don't need our bylaws to prove that.

Social fraternities and sororities have certain hallmarks. Who is that guy, anyway?

Anyway, I'm going to bed.

Well he hasn't responded in a while on the talk page for the NPHC article, if he does I'll drop you a line and *you* can argue with him.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

My apologies, for some reason I thought you were female. Mea culpa.

No problem. It isn't like being in Alpha Phi Omega is a clue either way. OTOH, for NPHC greeks it definitely does. (Well, not counting MIAKA, but I think I'll wait on asking about MIAKA until I have no desire to live left)

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by naraht

No problem. It isn't like being in Alpha Phi Omega is a clue either way. OTOH, for NPHC greeks it definitely does. (Well, not counting MIAKA, but I think I'll wait on asking about MIAKA until I have no desire to live left)

Huh?

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

(at bolded) So what are the core elements that separates Delta from Alpha Phi Omega if both are about brother/sisterhood and [public] service?

I have no idea since I know nothing about APO, except what I have read here,nor do I care to know. But one may be that you started as Boy Scouts and we didn't.

btw, came from a Scouting family--father an Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow and troop leader, mother a GS troop leader, me from Brownie all the way through MAriner Scout--camp counselor and troop leader. So I am not knocking Scouting.

[KAPital PHINUst]

[hijack]Naraht, you remember the days we used to post on APO-L? I still read the online archives from time to time. Matter of fact, I have known you 12 years and only via the Internet. I gotta make a note to meet you in person sometime. I came a LONG way from APO-L, as you may remember. But I digress.... [/hijack]

PS, I still think we should collaborate and write a REAL Alpha Phi Omega history book

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I have no idea since I know nothing about APO, except what I have read here,nor do I care to know. But one may be that you started as Boy Scouts and we didn't.

LOL.

The difference that I see is that APO started as a focus on service through which brotherhood can be realized.

We started as a focus on sisterhood through which service and empowered communities can be realized.

Originally Posted by ladygreek

btw, came from a Scouting family--father an Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow and troop leader, mother a GS troop leader, me from Brownie all the way through MAriner Scout--camp counselor and troop leader. So I am not knocking Scouting.

I was a Brownie. The worst thing ever. It served as nothing but a reinforcement of gender stereotypes and expectations. Maybe that was just my Brownie leaders who sucked.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

(at bolded) So what are the core elements that separates Delta from Alpha Phi Omega if both are about brother/sisterhood and [public] service?

A very good question. I think there are certain things that members of both could agree on that are part of their history. For APO, its historical tie to Boy Scouts of America and for DST, its historical tie to the African American Community.

DST has community chapters (I think all of the NPHC do, but I'm not sure) that allow women to join after college. APO's alumni associations can't do that.

I don't know if the changes in membership intake process in the 1990s to limit pledging represents a significant difference or not.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I have no idea since I know nothing about APO, except what I have read here,nor do I care to know. But one may be that you started as Boy Scouts and we didn't.

(at Scouting) Good point. I only asked b/c I always figured if the true intent of our orgs was to serve in some capacity, there should be/have been a lot less inter-org disputes about trivial matters that had nothing to do with the reason why our respective orgs exist.

btw, THAT was, is, and has ALWAYS been my platform ever since I joined Greekchat.

btw, came from a Scouting family--father an Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow and troop leader, mother a GS troop leader, me from Brownie all the way through MAriner Scout--camp counselor and troop leader. So I am not knocking Scouting.

Good deal!! At least I get spared from the "ManScout" jokes from you *lol* (not that it had ever bothered me, but still....

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Huh?

MiAKA = Men interest AKA.
http://www.fox11az.com/news/topstori....2b127edb.html

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by naraht

(I think all of the NPHC do, but I'm not sure)

Correct.

Originally Posted by naraht

I don't know if the changes in membership intake process in the 1990s to limit pledging represents a significant difference or not.

Why would it?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by naraht

MiAKA = Men interest AKA.

I know what they are.

What do they have to do with anything?