Do you ever wish you joined a National org?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This absolutely, positively is NOT the truth everywhere. There are schools where the locals rule rush and the NPCs are the bottom of the totem pole. And money doesn't "flow in" from the national organization - the members are paying dues that are probably several times what yours are.

Do you have an active alumnae corporation/chapter? This is absolutely essential for a strong collegiate chapter when you're local amongst NPCs.

I'm so glad you said this, 33girl! In truth, money in NPCs flows the other direction towards nationals. Nationals only spends money on a chapter when they are colonizing, at least in AOII. (And, as has been pointed out to me, AOII helps financially when working to rehabilitate chapters in trouble.)

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

i would be very interested in knowing how quickly/slowly some of the more well-known orgs spread when they first were founded.

If you're asking this question for comparitive purposes, it doesn't work. The more established orgs were founded pre-internet, pre-instant nation-wide media, etc.

Their growth would be been far more rapid if they'd had access to the resources we have today.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I'm so glad you said this, 33girl! In truth, money in NPCs flows the other direction towards nationals. Nationals only spends money on a chapter when they are colonizing, at least in AOII.

Right. Being part of an NPC sorority does not = having tons of money at your disposal for recruitment and such. Our respective HQs don't provide us with funds for recruitment (unless the chapter is a new colony or a redeveloping chapter). They can assist us in other ways like sending in a consultant when a chapter is having difficulty with recruitment, but they don't give chapters money.

Generally, a chapter's recruitment budget is generated from the dues paid by active members. Some chapters do receive help in the form of donations from area alumnae (they donate food, decorations, balloons, etc.) but HQ does not supply chapters with money to spend for recruitment.

[pidropil]

any one from the phils.?i'm quite behind updates of ASP philippines.yet i got messages about the issue of nationalizing ASP w/c i think getting away from the US - ASP...any blood of a phoenix can give me light about the matter?

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by pidropil

any one from the phils.?i'm quite behind updates of ASP philippines.yet i got messages about the issue of nationalizing ASP w/c i think getting away from the US - ASP...any blood of a phoenix can give me light about the matter?

what.in.the.world

[pshsx1]

Alrighty. Hopefully I won't go too off topic here.

My school only has 4 sororities and 6 fraternities. Two of our sororities and one of our fraternities is local (actually, the fraternity was founder by my school's founder and tried to go national a longgggg time ago but failed). One of our fraternities and one of our sororities are both kind of treated as locals by our IFC. All of the greeks in the local orgs absolutely love them. I have never really heard a complaint from them and, because they are local, they try to uphold their values more than anyone because, if they don't, who will? Their only big problem is recruitment. The three locals have to try way harder than the national orgs on campus to get members.

And in the case of joing multiple orgs.. I know that, at least for the fraternities at my school, you can join two fraternities if one is professional and one is not. One of my much older brothers is a Theta Tau and a SigEp. So, here, our local Phi Kappa Upsilon brothers could also join the professional fraternity but that's it. And I'm pretty sure that if they try to join another greek at another school, they have to drop affiliation with PKU.

Hopefully I wasn't horribly off topic there.. :/

[jaynu]

It's Philipino slang.... I've no idea what he said either hahah

Anyways, I'm a part of Gamma Beta Asian-Interest Fraternity, started as a local in 2000. I joined in 2006 and it has become the greatest decision of my life. My experience as a friend, leader, and student has been maximized through joining, and I cannot imagine what college would've been like without the experiences I've had the past 3 years.

I'm really proud of what Gamma Beta has become... 4 Chapters in Texas and 1 in Oklahoma (note: our expansion doors opened in the Spring of 2008). A newly established National Board and Alumni Association, and more Interest Groups. I'm proud of that Local feel... to know that I know everyone in my fraternity, as well as being able to pushing for my visions of a larger fraternity to happen.

I never think about joining the big National fraternities, even though I had a chance to. I love being someone who can make an immediate impact instead of a number. I love the decision I made and hopefully my brother and kids will too.

"Better to be the head of a snake than the tail of a dragon."

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by pidropil

any one from the phils.?i'm quite behind updates of ASP philippines.yet i got messages about the issue of nationalizing ASP w/c i think getting away from the US - ASP...any blood of a phoenix can give me light about the matter?

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

what.in.the.world

He appears to be a member of Alpha Sigma Phi of the Phillipines. (Check here or here. Or read this thread.)

According to the Wiki, there is an International Council of Alpha Sigma Phi, which links the American and Filipino orgs. Who knows how accurate that information is, though; the citation for it is to some sketchy internet forum called Greek Chat. (This post in the afore-linked thread specificially.)

The poster seems to have heard that ASP-Phillipines may be distancing itself from "The Old Gal." As the phoenix is a primary symbol of Alpha Sigma Phi, I would guess that "blood of a phoenix" means a brother in Alpha Sigma Phi, and he is wondering if any of them have more information.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

some sketchy internet forum called Greek Chat

LOL

[LavenderChoc08]

I personally feel that you could join a National org, but why would you want to? If you made the decision to be apart of something why not grow your local to a national?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by LavenderChoc08

I personally feel that you could join a National org, but why would you want to? If you made the decision to be apart of something why not grow your local to a national?

Well, just because one person in the local has a desire to be in a national organization doesn't mean that everyone will agree to shift the organization into a national one.

But I don't think that's what the OP was talking about. I think she's trying to find out which perks (if any) do you feel you're missing out on from being a member of a local GLO (please correct me if I'm wrong).