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[AOII Angel]

I knew this college sounded familiar. These chapters are SMALL. I'm on AOIIs scholarship committee. We just gave our highest scholarship to the chapter president of AOII at Coe. In three years she held every major office and was Panhell President and did so much in her community. Impressive resume that you aren't going to be able to build with big chapters. Yeah, this is not a competitive recruitment campus.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

#1 Rule for anyone involved in a colonization, ever: YOU DON'T GET TO PICK THE NPC's.

I know that sometimes there is a push for a historically Jewish group, but even then, the applicable groups can say "no thanks" in a quick minutes.

So true. There was a campus recently that only had one group send an interest package, so it was pretty much that group or no group. You can't force an NPC to have interest.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

So true. There was a campus recently that only had one group send an interest package, so it was pretty much that group or no group. You can't force an NPC to have interest.

More than one. I can think of at least two and it was the same group both times. Both campuses were lucky to have them and in one case, the other groups were a little intimidated.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

I find it a little strange that a school would be exploring expansion given the disparity in recruitment number results for this school posted in this past year's recruitment thread.

[Shellfish]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Over in the KD forum she was talking about KKD. Yeah, I haven't heard of that NPC either.

But that was Rachel Green's sorority.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

I find it a little strange that a school would be exploring expansion given the disparity in recruitment number results for this school posted in this past year's recruitment thread.

That doesn't preclude expansion on any campus (and yes I looked.) New groups often increase interest in Greek Life, but struggling chapters shouldn't be the ONE reason a Greek system uses to decide not to expand.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Shellfish

But that was Rachel Green's sorority.

THAT's why it sounded familiar! Haha

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

That doesn't preclude expansion on any campus (and yes I looked.) New groups often increase interest in Greek Life, but struggling chapters shouldn't be the ONE reason a Greek system uses to decide not to expand.

Oh I know. It's that this is such a small campus with such a tiny Greek system. With one chapter significantly struggling like that, I think it would be very difficult to pull it out of that downward spiral once another chapter showed up.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Oh I know. It's that this is such a small campus with such a tiny Greek system. With one chapter significantly struggling like that, I think it would be very difficult to pull it out of that downward spiral once another chapter showed up.

Maybe, maybe not. But, if a struggling chapter is holding a system back from growing then they shouldn't hold back for fear of that chapter closing. If a lot of girls are going bidless rather than joining a particular chapter, there is a problem. A struggling chapter can be salvaged, but if it can't, it can't. I'm not convinced that adding a group means the end of the lowest group on the totem pole anyway. There always has to be a home for the girls who don't fit with the more popular kids so to speak.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

More than one. I can think of at least two and it was the same group both times. Both campuses were lucky to have them and in one case, the other groups were a little intimidated.

There was also a campus that chose TWO NPC groups for stacked colonies, and the first colonizing group politely declined to formally (IE with a ceremony) colonize after a week of on-campus interviews with students.

As stated by others here, NPC Expansion for any campus is a thoughtful and gradual process.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Oh I know. It's that this is such a small campus with such a tiny Greek system. With one chapter significantly struggling like that, I think it would be very difficult to pull it out of that downward spiral once another chapter showed up.

There were only numbers for 2 of the three chapters, so I wouldn't automatically assume that one chapter is struggling....it could be that the chapter with the larger class was way under total going into rush and was able to pick up extra girls to get to total. With chapter sizes what they are, that seems the far more likely option.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by 33girl

There were only numbers for 2 of the three chapters, so I wouldn't automatically assume that one chapter is struggling....it could be that the chapter with the larger class was way under total going into rush and was able to pick up extra girls to get to total. With chapter sizes what they are, that seems the far more likely option.

Looking at the stats on the school's Greek Life page, this is what I had assumed, unless something has changed drastically in the last two years. 2010 stats show everyone more or less equal.

[Tulip86]

The Coe Greeklife page has stats for spring '12 and it shows 1 group at 66, one at 56 and one at 31

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by Tulip86

The Coe Greeklife page has stats for spring '12 and it shows 1 group at 66, one at 56 and one at 31

Yup. I didn't want to get that specific so I just mentioned the Greekchat posts. Oh well.

[33girl]

Then those numbers on IP's page are hella wrong. At any rate - 31 on a campus where total is 55 is not irredeemably can't recover struggling. Honestly, they could be on top in a year or two. I've seen it happen. 31 on a campus where total is 255 is another matter.