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06-30-2018, 04:53 PM
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They have a legal department and a law school faculty. I imagine they consulted the right people.
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07-04-2018, 07:53 AM
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It's being watched carefully and the University of Michigan (very much a public school) is doing the same thing.
The big problem is with filling a house. For a lot of chapters at Michigan, this will mean all juniors and seniors will be required to live in because sophomores can't if they aren't members until second semester of freshman year. Leases are signed for Fall by October for most students. They won't know if they are Greek yet so they will have to get alternative housing and sign leases. Most seniors don't want to live in and Juniors aren't usually thrilled about it.
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07-04-2018, 08:14 AM
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Michigan would have a much more difficult time. I'm surprised there isn't a lawsuit.
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07-04-2018, 11:11 AM
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If they make it about housing, the school will just say “we’re sorry you’re saddled with these huge white elephants of houses. We’ll help you out and buy them from you.”
I think it’s ridiculous to force students in general to sign leases a year in advance, Greek or not.
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07-04-2018, 06:12 PM
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This implementation is going to affect our colonization as we are returning here next month.
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07-04-2018, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AGDee
It's being watched carefully and the University of Michigan (very much a public school) is doing the same thing.
The big problem is with filling a house. For a lot of chapters at Michigan, this will mean all juniors and seniors will be required to live in because sophomores can't if they aren't members until second semester of freshman year. Leases are signed for Fall by October for most students. They won't know if they are Greek yet so they will have to get alternative housing and sign leases. Most seniors don't want to live in and Juniors aren't usually thrilled about it.
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As far as Michigan goes, could the chapter houses be re-configured to hold fewer women with nicer amenities? Having only one roommate or being able to get a sleep in single might have made me actually enjoy living in the house. Do the houses there have cold dorms? I have seen chapter houses where the cold dorm was renovated into single or double rooms. The day rooms were converted to single or double sleep in rooms. I know with fewer women living in the lost revenue would have to be made up by splitting parlor fees among the sisters living off campus. But those living in might do so more willingly.
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07-04-2018, 11:51 PM
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Being 21 and not being able to have alcohol in your room is a no-go for a lot of students. Doubt the NPC budges much on that issue.
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07-05-2018, 12:48 AM
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Being 21 and not being able to have alcohol in your room is a no-go for a lot of students. Doubt the NPC budges much on that issue.
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Maybe this will get them to the point that they will.
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07-05-2018, 11:35 AM
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Considering the NPC's business model basically consists of pushing their liability concerns regarding alcohol off on their NIC counterparts, I doubt that'll change any time soon.
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07-05-2018, 12:11 PM
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Tell us how you really feel, Kevin. Lol
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07-05-2018, 03:10 PM
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Considering the NPC's business model basically consists of pushing their liability concerns regarding alcohol off on their NIC counterparts, I doubt that'll change any time soon.
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The NIC could make a similar rules, ya know.
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07-05-2018, 03:15 PM
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I just got back from Convention and met my current Michigan chapter sisters. I should have asked them about this. I think our house sleeps about 70 women.
Only Delta Delta Delta had a shared dormer sleeping room when I was there, so I don't think there are any dormers/cold rooms to convert.
I don't think anyone is being "forced" to sign an apartment lease early -- it's a supply and demand, lock in early situation. You can wait, but then you might get stuck with the crappier options...just like if you're the incoming freshman who waits to send in your housing deposit. You get what's left over.
It will be interesting to see if students who are planning to rush wait, on the good chance they'll get a bid and have a bed in their yet-to-be-determined chapter house.
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Inside Fraternity and Sorority Members' Legal Battle with USC
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