Source???

[Dionysus]

On GC, I've read several times that all but two US presidents were social greeks. One of the two who weren't, was a service greek.

What source is this fact stated in?

[Senusret I]

It's not a fact at all.

And I don't know where it was first stated, but it appeared on lots of websites over the years.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

On GC, I've read several times that all but two US presidents were social greeks. One of the two who weren't, was a service greek.

What source is this fact stated in?

Which GLOs were founded in the 1700s?

Is the service Greek president Bill Clinton?

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Is the service Greek president Bill Clinton?

MY Chapter Brother, William Jefferson Clinton, Spring '66/Line 21, former President of the United States, Line Brother of Past National President Jerry Schroeder, Line Brother of Ambassador Christopher Ashby, a PLEDGED, that's right, I said PLEDGED Brother of Mu Alpha Chapter -- NOT HONORARY.

That's Mu Alpha Chapter, Georgetown University, Two-Zero-Zero-Five-Seven.

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

On GC, I've read several times that all but two US presidents were social greeks. One of the two who weren't, was a service greek.

What source is this fact stated in?

IIRC, we talked about this some time ago. Those statistics were from a study done by NIC in either the 1980s or 1990s. They only looked at a certain time frame and was not meant to be a chronicle from "the beginning." Someone had linked the report. It might still be on GC somewhere.

[Drolefille]

Interesting that they would call the Skull and Bones guys "Greek" as they are not. S&B and the other Yale senior societies are quite different from GLOs.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Interesting that they would call the Skull and Bones guys "Greek" as they are not. S&B and the other Yale senior societies are quite different from GLOs.

Both Bushes were in S & B AND DKE. They're Greek because they're DKE.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Both Bushes were in S & B AND DKE. They're Greek because they're DKE.

Doh Thanks. I should have known I was forgetting something.

[DUKyleXY]

This is from the Center for the Study of the College Fraternity, Bloomington, IN.

"The North-American Interfraternity Conference has also compiled a list of U.S. Presidents who were/are fraternity members. Contrary to the statistic quoted above, no president prior to 1877 was a fraternity member and seven presidents since then have not been fraternity men. President who were fraternity members are: President
Years in Office
Fraternity
Rutherford B. Hayes
1877-1881
Delta Kappa Epsilon
James Garfield
1881
Delta Upsilon
Chester Arthur
1881-1885
Psi Upsilon
Benjamin Harrison
1989-1893
Phi Delta Theta
William McKinley
1897-1901
Sigma Alpha Epsilon
Theodore Roosevelt
1901-1909
Delta Kappa Epsilon/Alpha Delta Phi
William Howard Taft
1909-1913
Psi Upsilon
Woodrow Wilson
1913-1921
Phi Kappa Psi
Calvin Coolidge
1923-1929
Phi Gamma Delta
Franklin D. Roosevelt
1933-1945
Alpha Delta Phi
Harry S. Truman
1945-1953
Lambda Chi Alpha
Dwight D. Eisenhower
1953-1961
Tau Epsilon Phi
John F. Kennedy
1961-1963
Phi Kappa Theta
Gerald R. Ford
1974-1977
Delta Kappa Epsilon
Ronald Reagan
1981-1989
Tau Kappa Epsilon
George H. W. Bush
1989-1993
Delta Kappa Epsilon
George W. Bush
2001-
Delta Kappa Epsilon
"

So there, since 1877 there have been 17 Greek affiliated Presidents, there have also been 7 unaffiliated.
Sorry to put a rain on anyones parade!

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by DUKyleXY

This is from the Center for the Study of the College Fraternity, Bloomington, IN.

"The North-American Interfraternity Conference has also compiled a list of U.S. Presidents who were/are fraternity members. Contrary to the statistic quoted above, no president prior to 1877 was a fraternity member and seven presidents since then have not been fraternity men. President who were fraternity members are: President
Years in Office
Fraternity
Rutherford B. Hayes
1877-1881
Delta Kappa Epsilon
James Garfield
1881
Delta Upsilon
Chester Arthur
1881-1885
Psi Upsilon
Benjamin Harrison
1989-1893
Phi Delta Theta
William McKinley
1897-1901
Sigma Alpha Epsilon
Theodore Roosevelt
1901-1909
Delta Kappa Epsilon/Alpha Delta Phi
William Howard Taft
1909-1913
Psi Upsilon
Woodrow Wilson
1913-1921
Phi Kappa Psi
Calvin Coolidge
1923-1929
Phi Gamma Delta
Franklin D. Roosevelt
1933-1945
Alpha Delta Phi
Harry S. Truman
1945-1953
Lambda Chi Alpha
Dwight D. Eisenhower
1953-1961
Tau Epsilon Phi
John F. Kennedy
1961-1963
Phi Kappa Theta
Gerald R. Ford
1974-1977
Delta Kappa Epsilon
Ronald Reagan
1981-1989
Tau Kappa Epsilon
George H. W. Bush
1989-1993
Delta Kappa Epsilon
George W. Bush
2001-
Delta Kappa Epsilon
"

So there, since 1877 there have been 17 Greek affiliated Presidents, there have also been 7 unaffiliated.
Sorry to put a rain on anyones parade!

FYI: Grover Cleveland, the 22nd and 24th President of the United States (1885–1889 and 1893–1897), was an honorary initiate of Sigma Chi Fraternity.

My understanding as to why he isn't listed by the Center for the Study of the College Fraternity or NIC is because he was initiated after his first term but before his second term. So he wasn't a member at the time he was first sworn into office.

[Tom Earp]

Most if not all were members of the Masons.

While not Greek Social Organizations it is still in a since a Fraternal group.

Also, many GLOs have basis goint to the Masons in their Rituals.

You would have to be a member of both to understand.