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Old 01-19-2018, 08:34 PM
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Even before this horrible incident, Iíve been thinking quite a bit about the future of Alpha Phi. The projected image (and also reputation) of many collegiate chapters is not one I experienced or recognize. We were not the girls you couldnít sit with, and neither were any of the other chapters I knew of.
It seems there was a paradigm shift sometime in the last 10-20 years to put Alpha Phi on the map. We are there.
I know we have many wonderful sisters even within these ďmean girlĒ chapters, and Iím wondering what it will take to help them shine, to redirect the focus away from the superficial.
Interested in fellow sistersí thoughts.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:25 PM
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Even before this horrible incident, I’ve been thinking quite a bit about the future of Alpha Phi. The projected image (and also reputation) of many collegiate chapters is not one I experienced or recognize. We were not the girls you couldn’t sit with, and neither were any of the other chapters I knew of.
It seems there was a paradigm shift sometime in the last 10-20 years to put Alpha Phi on the map. We are there.
I know we have many wonderful sisters even within these “mean girl” chapters, and I’m wondering what it will take to help them shine, to redirect the focus away from the superficial.
Interested in fellow sisters’ thoughts.
AOE
I know you put this in the Alpha Phi forum and that you're looking for input and opinions from your fellow sisters, but I've read your comments here and in the other thread, and if you're willing to explain what you're seeing in Alpha Phi a little more in depth, then I'd be interested to hear your take. If not, that's OK, too.

I just don't generally hear anyone talking about their org on a national level in the manner that you have, because to see such trends on such a wide scale doesn't seem to be typical.
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Old 01-19-2018, 11:55 PM
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Itís hard to see the organization you love heading down (what you feel may be) the wrong path and/or taking hits that strike at the heart like this. I have no experience with Nationals and how they implement what they envision. But as I said above, it seems like they did have a growth model that worked.

My organization seems in many ways stronger than ever and I rejoice with the success of many chapters, but Iím also wondering at what cost? I was indeed, looking for input from some sisters, but since itís here...

Has anyone else perceived a (perhaps cyclical) shift in the focus of their GLO? Or perhaps seen other GLOs refocus?
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:03 AM
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Additionally, as others have mentioned, too many chapters have a culture of seeing how many members they can gain with thousands of Instagram followers instead of recruiting for quality. It should be more important to be a good person who genuinely respects all cultures, ethnicities and sexual orientations rather than someone who can be the chapter's controversial celebrity.
This. There is a price.
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:41 AM
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I've been thinking about this since you first posted about it. I agree that Alpha Phi, especially the newer chapters, now has a specific image their chapters project. I think part of this growth model came out of a desire to colonize at large Greek schools where there was no prior Alpha Phi presence, and that the best way to immediately become a strong chapter and not "that" chapter was to take women who perhaps have questionable reputations, lower grades or fewer connections. I know this is what they did at Clemson, and by all accounts the chapter is very successful at this model.

I think of a chapter at a school I worked at, which shall for now remain nameless, that has a very different reputation than the national organization does, and it was frustrating to see them struggle in recruitment because the national organization valued the pretty, social image and this chapter was not interested in that. It was repeatedly trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. This chapter really shone in informal recruitment and didn't make quota, but I could tell that they were expected to make quota even if it meant taking women they didn't want to be sisters. I wonder if an over-focus on recruitment numbers is partially to blame. I would rather have a chapter full of women who live my sorority's creed every day and never meet quota or total than a chapter of women who don't care about what Alpha Delta Pi means.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:14 PM
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I wonder if an over-focus on recruitment numbers is partially to blame. I would rather have a chapter full of women who live my sorority's creed every day and never meet quota or total than a chapter of women who don't care about what Alpha Delta Pi means.
Totally agree.
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:18 AM
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Totally agree.
I private messaged you awhile back. Did you receive my message?
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Old 02-10-2018, 03:03 PM
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I private messaged you awhile back. Did you receive my message?
Nopeójust checked and itís not there. Are there different folders?
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Old 02-11-2018, 07:36 PM
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Hi there!
I am not an Alpha Phi, but have the upmost respect for your organization and I have thought about what you posted, mainly due to my aunt being an Alpha Phi at Cornell. =) . I mentioned this post to my husband, who is also Greek and he said the solution is simple. Get involved, and start working on obtaining new leadership. He does love the Greek system, and says the best thing to do is get involved, whether that means going back to your chapter of initiation or a chapter that is close by. I feel like we are constantly telling women going through recruitment to be the change they want to see in the chapter they don't want to join. Well it sounds like this is the point for you, to maybe be the change you want to see in the organization you already cherish.

Best of luck!
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:55 PM
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Hi there!
I am not an Alpha Phi, but have the upmost respect for your organization and I have thought about what you posted, mainly due to my aunt being an Alpha Phi at Cornell. =) . I mentioned this post to my husband, who is also Greek and he said the solution is simple. Get involved, and start working on obtaining new leadership. He does love the Greek system, and says the best thing to do is get involved, whether that means going back to your chapter of initiation or a chapter that is close by. I feel like we are constantly telling women going through recruitment to be the change they want to see in the chapter they don't want to join. Well it sounds like this is the point for you, to maybe be the change you want to see in the organization you already cherish.

Best of luck!
Thank you, wsucalsigmakapp,
That is actually what I am looking to do! I was unable to volunteer until recently and hopefully will get into a position to do so soon.
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:05 PM
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Even before this horrible incident, I’ve been thinking quite a bit about the future of Alpha Phi. The projected image (and also reputation) of many collegiate chapters is not one I experienced or recognize. We were not the girls you couldn’t sit with, and neither were any of the other chapters I knew of.
It seems there was a paradigm shift sometime in the last 10-20 years to put Alpha Phi on the map. We are there.
I know we have many wonderful sisters even within these “mean girl” chapters, and I’m wondering what it will take to help them shine, to redirect the focus away from the superficial.
Interested in fellow sisters’ thoughts.
AOE
I wanted to say how much I admire you for sharing your concerns regarding your organization's future. Quite likely you are not the only Alpha Phi alumna or collegiate member who is having similar thoughts. I'm glad that you are willing and are now able to volunteer your time and to become involved with them. Is there are collegiate chapter or alumnae group close to you that you can volunteer with and discuss your concerns? Best wishes to you for your efforts and to all the members of Alpha Phi.

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