Zero Tolerance in Schools

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by badgeguy

ah. gothca.

do you think that going back to a separated school system would make things better?

I personally had no problems at my high school which had over 1000 students from 9-12 grades. Everyone seemed to "play nice" and yes, there was the occasional fight or incidence, but nothing like whats happening now..... and I was there from 1987-1991.

My only issue with high school was that I got a three day INschool suspension, for being late to school three times without a valid excuse!! I can only imagine what happens now....

Ive always felt that school punishments never worked right......Keep kids IN school...if you have to separate them because of behavior thats fine, but do NOT kick them out! To me THAT causes more issues.......

JMHO......

No point in feeding Max the Troll. He'll be banned again before long I expect.

[ASTalumna06]

Ugh, don't let pinkman derail the thread. Just ignore his comments.

[Kevin]

My wife teaches at a school where whites are a minority and 75% are on free and reduced lunch. They were the top scored school in the state but for a magnet school situated in a gated community lake resort town with 11 students.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by pinkman

No thread derailment here my sista. You complained about the schools and I offered a solution to fix the schools. We had great schools and the liberals demanded change. Now the schools are a disaster. I suggest we go back to the old system that had great schools and you are complaining.

By we, you mean some of us had great schools. And if what passes as critical thought in your posts is any indication, you either did not have the benefit of a great school or you failed to take advantage of the education that great school offered.

And really, just be honest and call things what they are: the only "solution" you've offered is segregation.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by pinkman

By "we", I mean the USA had the best schools in the world. MOST of us had better schools. MOST of YOUR people had better schools too.

You really don't pay attention, do you? I'm as WASPish as they come, which you've been told before.

Glad to see that education is paying off for you.

[33girl]

Racistjerk, I mean pinkman,

Have you ever heard of Marva Collins?

[ASTalumna06]

It makes me sad that these stories continue to pop up on a daily basis...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/g...-code-23048647

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-code/6862189/

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. -- When a young girl decided to shave her head to support her friend, who is battling cancer, she meant it as a gesture of solidarity.

"It felt like the right thing to do," Kamryn Renfro said.

But Kamryn's family members say her school didn't see it that way and said her shaved head violated its dress code policy
.......
In a statement, Caprock Academy said its dress code policy is clear.

"Caprock Academy does have a detailed dress code policy, which was created to promote safety, uniformity, and a non-distracting environment for the school's students. Under this policy, shaved heads are not permitted," said Catherine Norton Breman, President and Chair of Caprock Academy Board of Directors.

Delaney and her mom are hoping the school will change its mind and make an exception.

"It makes me sad because she was really happy to go back to school and show people what she did, but now that she didn't get to, she's kindof sad," Delaney said.

[DubaiSis]

False equivalency much?
I can't speak for anyone else here but I'm saying a little girl shaving her head in a brave and generous token of solidarity is in no way the same discussion as violence in inner-city schools. To use your scenario as an actual equivalency, kid in inner-city school beats the crap out of a rapist in the act on school grounds. Yes, an exception should be made. I appreciate that the school has a dress code for a reason, but zero tolerance, the point of this thread, doesn't help the child or the school.

Should schools work to diminish/eliminate violence? That doesn't merit discussion. What to do about it? Great. We can have that discussion, but not without talking taxes.

[ASTalumna06]

Yet another story about a girl's hair being a "distraction":

https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/red...ry?id=24985384

Personal style is designed to make a statement. Still, Hayleigh Black never expected that hers would land her in the principal's office.

No sooner had she arrived for her first day back at school this year than the 16-year-old was told to go home. According to the Muscle Shoals school system in Muscle Shoals, Alabama, her red hair was too disruptive to remain in the building.

Black has dyed her hair a variant of vibrant red for almost three years, as smiling school photos show. Her mother, Kim Boyd, told ABC News that school administrators have never taken issue with it before.

But last week, Black was told that her hair was "distracting" fellow classmates. Citing the student handbook, which rules against "distracting" or "disruptive" hair styles, the principal insisted she leave the building.