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04-02-2013, 06:55 PM
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OKC has a few liberal enclaves. The RWers here are very dogmatic about their politics. It's very similar to the sort of rigid religious thinking you encounter in folks who can be led to believe the Earth is 6,000 years old and that Jesus Christ and dinosaurs coexisted (and if you can be led to believe that, you can be led to believe anything, right?). They surround themselves with an echo chamber whether they're meeting the OKC Tea Party folks at the H&H Gun Range or whether you're talking about the John Birch Society folks or OCPAC or whatever, when everyone else is talking about how UN Agenda 21 is a real threat to our political sovereignty and our state's rights under the 10th Amendment, a lot of hairbrained stuff might actually begin to sound reasonable.
That said, there are also a lot of reasonable folks out here and some legitimately cool places and plenty to do. Oklahoma has a pretty backwards redneck reputation, which is well deserved, but Oklahoma City and Tulsa are actually pretty decent places full of decent people and the rest of the state is nice to visit if you can simply live with the fact that just about everyone around you really and truly thinks the President is a Kenyan Muslim.
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04-02-2013, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
The unintended consequence of this bill (or at least one) will be a huge spike in the number of children requiring services from child protective services due to abuse/neglect.
Not to mention the fact that this could put teachers in literal mortal in some cases with angry students/parents.
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I don't believe this will pass, but I just don't understand what happened to reason, not just in Tennessee, but in all these red states.
In addition to what you've noted, I could see teachers having a moral dilemma giving students bad grades if they know students are on assistance.
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04-02-2013, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by amIblue?
I don't believe this will pass, but I just don't understand what happened to reason, not just in Tennessee, but in all these red states.
In addition to what you've noted, I could see teachers having a moral dilemma giving students bad grades if they know students are on assistance.
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ALEC.
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04-02-2013, 09:50 PM
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand ALEC.
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04-02-2013, 10:01 PM
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Do well in school, little Timmy, or the government will force you and your family to starve in the cold. Well done, Tennessee. This proposed bill would deduct government assistance from needy families if their kids do poorly in school.
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These types of laws remind me of tesserae from the Hunger Games. Why not just hold a big reaping so these poor souls can fight to the death? Then some politicians can feel satisfied in knowing that they did the public a good service.
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04-02-2013, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
The unintended consequence of this bill (or at least one) will be a huge spike in the number of children requiring services from child protective services due to abuse/neglect.
Not to mention the fact that this could put teachers in literal mortal in some cases with angry students/parents.
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Why is it that people think that just because they pass a law, it will make the problem go away? In many cases all they'll do by passing the law is make things worse, and more expensive!
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04-02-2013, 10:14 PM
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You mean the one at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jstephe...57623081962152
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Note, actually stating what the laws are in that manner indicates what Religion or branch of Religion generally created it. For example if "Steal" is #8 and "no other gods" is #1 then you are looking at "Hellenistic Jews, Greek Orthodox and Protestants except Lutherans". The Jews combine the "No other gods" into #2 and have #1 as "I am the Lord your God". The Protestants and Lutherans shift everything by combining the Protestant #1 & #2 into #1 and splitting Coveting into #9 Wife vs. #10 House. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_commandments)
Given that this is in Oklahoma, it makes sense that the Catholics, Lutherans and Jews weren't involved in putting it up.
See http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/6...html?site=full for the story of why it was erected in 2001.
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Wow! Never realized there were different 10 Commandments. I grew up Protestant (non denominational, though that's an oxymoron) and the one listed is the one I know. You learn something every day.
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04-03-2013, 07:52 AM
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand ALEC.
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http://www.alec.org/
ALEC writes a lot of anti-poor/anti-environment/social conservative, etc. sort of model legislation. When you hear about multiple states proposing things like banning abortion after 6 weeks or various sorts of tort reform, those are often bills written by ALEC.
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04-03-2013, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
http://www.alec.org/
ALEC writes a lot of anti-poor/anti-environment/social conservative, etc. sort of model legislation. When you hear about multiple states proposing things like banning abortion after 6 weeks or various sorts of tort reform, those are often bills written by ALEC.
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Thanks!
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04-03-2013, 03:11 PM
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This wins the thread.
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04-03-2013, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by adpiucf
Do well in school, little Timmy, or the government will force you and your family to starve in the cold. Well done, Tennessee. This proposed bill would deduct government assistance from needy families if their kids do poorly in school.
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One of the co-sponsors is the same douchebag who introduced that "Don't Say Gay" bill.
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04-03-2013, 08:16 PM
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This wins the thread.
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Though I hear it's doubtful the bill will ever see the light of day. Anyone can file a bill on anything. Getting it through is another matter.
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04-04-2013, 10:19 AM
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Not quite the brothel law ...
But Virginia just passed a law that cracks down on illegal boardinghouses (if they can ever enforce it ...).
It is illegal in Virginia for more than four unrelated people to share a house.
So much for the seniors getting together and renting a house.
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04-04-2013, 10:41 AM
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But Virginia just passed a law that cracks down on illegal boardinghouses (if they can ever enforce it ...).
It is illegal in Virginia for more than four unrelated people to share a house.
So much for the seniors getting together and renting a house.
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And Greek Life housing?
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