Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[pinkmama]

Looks like the new sorority is still taking sign ups for interviews also

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

I'm not planning to read through 55 pages, but doesn't IU use RFM so that more girls would get cut early rather than after Pref?

Originally Posted by 33girl

RFM most likely was a complete cluster this year with a round of parties being eliminated. AND I STILL NEVER GOT AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.

Yes, IU uses RFM. I am sure it was a cluster. But bed rush still screws up RFM to an extent. I am confident that RFM was not designed for bud rush, it was designed for quota/total. The only thing RFM really does is keeps strong recruiting chapters from over inviting to the early rounds, which happened like crazy prior to RFM.

Let's say there are 1600 PNMs. A SRC can invite 50% to the next round (12 party) which is 800. And let's say they are a highly sought after chapter and 750 accept bids. Then they are allowed to take 50% the next round (3 party) which is 375. Their quota is 40. So if 300 accept invitations, then 260 women are on their second and third bid lists, 260 who could potentially go bidless if they are on the second and third lists of the other two chapters on their pref invitation list.

If it were quota/total, their quota would be much higher. Possibly 60-70 depending on how many women were still eligible or a bid.

[pinkmama]

Originally Posted by Iu mom

Well said carnation our whole family is Greek and IU WAS the only university with the exact program my daughter wanted- a science (kinesiology) degree WITH dance- it's VERY VERY difficult to be admitted to this program with its audition admission process as well as having to get into IU at the same time- as an IU-of-stater we pay and it's fine because if what IU offers - that being said from a family if Greeks and many very active alum she WANTS to be greek AT IU and that won't be satisfied by a club membership - so we are still hoping for a COB

COB is more than likely all done with now. Most houses are having their first chapter meetings tomorrow/Monday and more than likely their first pledge type ceremony this weekend. They usually have everyone they need by then and won't add after the fact. If they do informal recruitment then that becomes a seperate pledge class typically and they have their own ceremonies and their own iniataion.

[Indiana mom]

In response to the girls that were offered snap bids - I know for sure one girl did not go through any of the recruitment process. She told everyone she was not interested in Rushing. She did receive a snap bid the day after snap bid. She did accept. She did not pay the Rush fee that my daughter and hundreds other paid and did not receive a bid. She did not travel back to IU early. to commit days visiting houses in the freezing cold.
Unfair is an understatement.
This chapter should at the very least be required to pick from the girls who went through all the hard work of formal requirement.

[DubaiSis]

Why?

These are private organizations who can pick WHOEVER they want. Rush just makes the process of finding which girls they want easier. There is no contract that says they have to choose ANY girls through formal rush.

[Katmandu]

Originally Posted by Indiana mom

In response to the girls that were offered snap bids - I know for sure one girl did not go through any of the recruitment process. She told everyone she was not interested in Rushing. She did receive a snap bid the day after snap bid. She did accept. She did not pay the Rush fee that my daughter and hundreds other paid and did not receive a bid. She did not travel back to IU early. to commit days visiting houses in the freezing cold.
Unfair is an understatement.
This chapter should at the very least be required to pick from the girls who went through all the hard work of formal requirement.

You are hurt and angry, we get it. You should let your daughter deal with it at this point. It is her college experience, not yours. Sororities are not obligated to select from women who paid a registration fee when it comes to COB bids. People have been very gracious to the IU moms on this thread because of IUs unique recruitment, but the helicopter blades are loud.

Good luck to all next year, but especially good luck to the great pledge class DPhiE will get!

[Rhomom]

Originally Posted by Indiana mom

In response to the girls that were offered snap bids - I know for sure one girl did not go through any of the recruitment process. She told everyone she was not interested in Rushing. She did receive a snap bid the day after snap bid. She did accept. She did not pay the Rush fee that my daughter and hundreds other paid and did not receive a bid. She did not travel back to IU early. to commit days visiting houses in the freezing cold.
Unfair is an understatement.
This chapter should at the very least be required to pick from the girls who went through all the hard work of formal requirement.

Originally Posted by Indiana mom

In response to the girls that were offered snap bids - I know for sure one girl did not go through any of the recruitment process. She told everyone she was not interested in Rushing. She did receive a snap bid the day after snap bid. She did accept. She did not pay the Rush fee that my daughter and hundreds other paid and did not receive a bid. She did not travel back to IU early. to commit days visiting houses in the freezing cold.
Unfair is an understatement.
This chapter should at the very least be required to pick from the girls who went through all the hard work of formal requirement.

Again, these are rumors at best--there is no way to know anything "for a fact" unless you are directly involved. Extenuating circumstances. That's all I am sayin.....

And to the moms who believe their daughters to be the "perfect package"? You are complaining about exclusivity yet you describe how perfect and special you believe your daughter to be. Do you not see the irony in that? EVERY WOMAN WHO WENT THROUGH RECRUITMENT HAS SOMETHING SPECIAL TO OFFER. None of us (and certainly not the actives) walk around with the prototype of the "perfect package in our heads. But I can tell you that the car someone drives, what religion they are, what daddy does for living, or what town they live in are not factors. The biggest factor, is how a PNM connects with a chapter during rush. And there are plenty of new pledges who knew no one, were not legacies and had no recs. Further more, this year's PNM's did not have to return that early--in the past IU recruitment has started up to a week prior to classes--sometimes on Jan 2. And being forced to visit houses the cold weather? Really? Was your daughter complaining or is that all mom.

Please know that every one here concedes that IU recruitment is a mess; a difficult, and very imperfect process. Changes must be made. But there is no conspiracy against anyone's daughter because she is from a certain place, because she is a dancer, because she lives in a certain neighborhood on campus. The girls out there who went bidless got the short end of the stick--no question. But as has been stressed a million times in this thread, this process is more than anything arbitrary; these heartbroken women are a victim of bad luck. Nothing more, nothing less.

[cinder1965]

Originally Posted by Rhomom

Again, these are rumors at best--there is no way to know anything "for a fact" unless you are directly involved. Extenuating circumstances. That's all I am sayin.....

And to the moms who believe their daughters to be the "perfect package"? You are complaining about exclusivity yet you describe how perfect and special you believe your daughter to be. Do you not see the irony in that? EVERY WOMAN WHO WENT THROUGH RECRUITMENT HAS SOMETHING SPECIAL TO OFFER. None of us (and certainly not the actives) walk around with the prototype of the "perfect package in our heads. But I can tell you that the car someone drives, what religion they are, what daddy does for living, or what town they live in are not factors. The biggest factor, is how a PNM connects with a chapter during rush. And there are plenty of new pledges who knew no one, were not legacies and had no recs. Further more, this year's PNM's did not have to return that early--in the past IU recruitment has started up to a week prior to classes--sometimes on Jan 2. And being forced to visit houses the cold weather? Really? Was your daughter complaining or is that all mom.

Please know that every one here concedes that IU recruitment is a mess; a difficult, and very imperfect process. Changes must be made. But there is no conspiracy against anyone's daughter because she is from a certain place, because she is a dancer, because she lives in a certain neighborhood on campus. The girls out there who went bidless got the short end of the stick--no question. But as has been stressed a million times in this thread, this process is more than anything arbitrary; these heartbroken women are a victim of bad luck. Nothing more, nothing less.

Agree. I think all that could be said about 2014 IU Recruitment has been said. Let's hope this helps push IU towards change and the new chapter on campus has a great colonization.

[AZTheta]

Rhomom, you got it almost right, up until the second to the last sentence.

For many women, it is not "bad luck." It is a consequence of no quota/total in place. It is bed rush. You cannot go to Preference, list all invites on your MRABA, and end up bidless at any other campus in the country, barring any unforeseen events or circumstances.

I will repeat this ad infinitum.

[Rhomom]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Rhomom, you got it almost right, up until the second to the last sentence.

For many women, it is not "bad luck." It is a consequence of no quota/total in place. It is bed rush. You cannot go to Preference, list all invites on your MRABA, and end up bidless at any other campus in the country, barring any unforeseen events or circumstances.

I will repeat this ad infinitum.

Ok--bad luck AND bed rush!

[Indiana mom]

It is not a rumor that she received a snap bid the day after formal bids even though she did not go through formal recruitment. This information came directly from her.
Don't assume everything posted is rumor or is being posted to be vindictive. There is some valid , helpful information being posted. Don't diminish everyone as being a "helicopter mom". There are many of us that would like to see the system operating in a more fair way so "all" young women can have a positive college experience.